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Do you think they will extend the lockdown or stick with 21st June As Freedom day?

438 replies

ihatebindweed · 06/06/2021 22:41

I hope they don't extend, because it moves the goalposts and then could lead to another extension. As it optional to go to certain places like clubs, when they open, then people vaccinated or not can make their choice.

I sadly think they will extend it and ruin my party planned for the end of June.

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PattyPan · 07/06/2021 16:50

@Flinstones

There has to be an end to this now I'm not into trading our freedom any more. If your scared stay in & let the rest of us get on with our lives & that includes travelling abroad.
Restrictions on travelling are as much from the country you’re visiting as from the U.K., other than red list and I’m not sure you’d want to visit somewhere where cases are sky high? I’m missing travel too but it’s the situation in the countries I want to visit and trying to get insurance that’s holding me back, not having to quarantine at home/pay for a private test.
bouncystorm · 07/06/2021 17:18

@Overthebow

I think they'll delay it by 2 weeks, and keep some of the easier restrictions. So keep masks and social distancing in public, but end social restrictions in private homes, have a higher limit on weddings and other private events. Allow the remaining industries to re-open but with some restrictions.
When will they actually tell us what will happen? This wouldn't be so bad, but for businesses it's very difficult.
LadyPenelope68 · 07/06/2021 17:19

@Watapalava
Not rubbish at all, it’s from someone I trust with correct information, not just some random idiot on the internet telling me I’m wrong.

BingBangBong1 · 07/06/2021 17:25

I think there are bigger things at play.

Firstly, most things are open and running normally. It's only weddings without restrictions, nightclubs and capacity in theatres.
Pubs, schools, sport, it's all going on now

So you could argue that if it's not safe for the last bit, is it safe for those too?

I've already seen people online suggesting they don't see a point to having a second jab or even a firs because originally, Hancock said jabs meant freedom. We have well exceeded what he said was enough jabs.
(Personally, the mistake people made was believing anything Hancock said).

They also said originally it was hospitalised admissions and deaths they were looking at, not cases as we won't be Covid zero and that we must live with it for the foreseeable. In that respect, we are doing well, despite the uptick of cases.

Sadly, it's already been said on Twitter etc that riots will be happening if we don't get this freedom day. On Facebook earlier, I was watching the live feed of Hancock addressing parliament- the live chat feed was full of Muppets shouting about riots and who they feel is responsible.

Economically speaking, there are some industries that desperately need this to happen.

It's not as simple as numbers of cases. It's economy, public conceptions, the possible of far reaching unrest country wide, education. You name it. I wouldn't like to be the one deciding.

omgthepain · 07/06/2021 18:14

I think opening nightclubs and having large festivals/ gatherings is asking for trouble I hope that doesn't start up again

Bordois · 07/06/2021 18:45

[quote LadyPenelope68]@Watapalava
Not rubbish at all, it’s from someone I trust with correct information, not just some random idiot on the internet telling me I’m wrong.[/quote]
In the whole of the northwest there are 30 people on ventilation (down from over 400 at peak) so the situation in your relatives hospital is in no way replicated in the rest of the region.

Bordois · 07/06/2021 18:50

Just to add on the 1st June there were 37 patients on ventilation in the NW. As of 4th June it has dropped to 30 which is the latest report date.

Its possible that numbers have climbed dramatically in the last few days but nowhere near capacity.

OrangeBananaFish · 07/06/2021 18:53

I think at best it will be a few things opening up, but not total relaxation.

Masks will remain. They could increase the number of people allowed to mix. Outdoors unlimited and indoors to more than 6 (say 30). Bars and nightclubs not to admit anyone in who hasn't scanned the app. Keep travel restrictions. Allow large outdoor events such as festivals and races, but maybe with limited capacity (such as it is now).

newnortherner111 · 07/06/2021 19:01

@OrangeBananaFish I am inclined to agree with your thoughts. Some things will change, not all.

VaccineSticker · 07/06/2021 19:06

They will not do anything. 21st of June is going to happen. It has happened loads of times now.
Wait until it gets really really messy before anything is done.
The are a reactive gov not proactive.

HelloMissus · 07/06/2021 20:16

Considering we couldn’t staff the Nightingales because of peck of ITU staff, they should have come on MN.
Every other person either works in ITU or is best mates with someone.
Missed a trick there, Matt.

SilverGlitterBaubles · 07/06/2021 20:26

As a guide see also Christmas and Boris's insistence that we would all be able to mix. We should know by now that the more they deny there's a problem the more we should be concerned. Confused

IhateAntivaccers · 07/06/2021 20:31

I dont think there is any chance of june 21 going ahead and it shouldnt. We can see a rise in cases of the Delta variant so now is the time for caution. Hopefully a few more months working towards zero covid and we can consider removing restrictions. Im afraid we have to protect the NHS but selfishness puts that at risk. I was on social media earlier and several professers and docters think we should delay lockdown so we must listen to the experts. Sadly there are to many selfish sandras to follow the rules

AlecTrevelyan006 · 07/06/2021 20:40

anyone who thinks zero covid is a legitimate aim is both selfish and stupid

MsMeNz · 07/06/2021 20:48

I think they'll move it a month to allow for more to have second jabs and allow all over 18s who want it to have their first.

I'm ok with this. As we are so close be sad to trip just before the finsih line (well you know not end end...) but pushing past that without good reason like a new variant with actual startsical higher hospital and death rates. I don't care about spread rates it's the hospice and death rates that matter now we have the vaccine.

IhateAntivaccers · 07/06/2021 20:51

@AlecTrevelyan006

anyone who thinks zero covid is a legitimate aim is both selfish and stupid
take your insults elsewere , if i wanted abuse from an incel I would have asked for it. Are you one of those selfish people @AlecTrevelyan006 ?
IhateAntivaccers · 07/06/2021 20:53

btw there is a thread with docters and scientists saying zero covid is possible so perhaps you want to educate yourself @AlecTrevelyan006

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4262726-How-much-further-can-covid-mutate?pg=12

Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/06/2021 20:56

@IhateAntivaccers

I dont think there is any chance of june 21 going ahead and it shouldnt. We can see a rise in cases of the Delta variant so now is the time for caution. Hopefully a few more months working towards zero covid and we can consider removing restrictions. Im afraid we have to protect the NHS but selfishness puts that at risk. I was on social media earlier and several professers and docters think we should delay lockdown so we must listen to the experts. Sadly there are to many selfish sandras to follow the rules
We aren't working towards zero Covid though. That's not on the government agenda.
IhateAntivaccers · 07/06/2021 21:01

How do you no @Waxonwaxoff0 ? Even if it isnt zero covid , we need to keep restrictions till we see a prolonged period with no deaths. A few cases maybe but not deaths to give the vaccines chance to work as we have to wait till everyone has one

AlecTrevelyan006 · 07/06/2021 21:03

@IhateAntivaccers

How do you no *@Waxonwaxoff0* ? Even if it isnt zero covid , we need to keep restrictions till we see a prolonged period with no deaths. A few cases maybe but not deaths to give the vaccines chance to work as we have to wait till everyone has one
deaths are not increasing
Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/06/2021 21:04

@IhateAntivaccers

How do you no *@Waxonwaxoff0* ? Even if it isnt zero covid , we need to keep restrictions till we see a prolonged period with no deaths. A few cases maybe but not deaths to give the vaccines chance to work as we have to wait till everyone has one
If the aim was zero Covid they'd have done it a long time ago.
IhateAntivaccers · 07/06/2021 21:06

@IhateAntivaccers

How do you no *@Waxonwaxoff0* ? Even if it isnt zero covid , we need to keep restrictions till we see a prolonged period with no deaths. A few cases maybe but not deaths to give the vaccines chance to work as we have to wait till everyone has one
There were no deaths last week and today there was so they are increasing. that persons death has maent FAMILY MEMBERS WITHOUT A RELATIVE.
Waxonwaxoff0 · 07/06/2021 21:06

There were deaths last week, what are you on about?

IhateAntivaccers · 07/06/2021 21:08

@Waxonwaxoff0

There were deaths last week, what are you on about?
yes but my point is we need to get to a stage were there are no deaths and unfortunately that means restrictions
Bordois · 07/06/2021 21:10

So we're going for immortality now.

That might take a while..