Who's currently cancelling their holiday to Portugal then?

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@AintPageantMaterial I hope you are enjoying every glorious second.

On the plus side not being able to go abroad has really been a shot in the arm (boom boom) for the UK travel and entertainment industry. Not going to France this half term meant I spent money in places I don't normally go to in my own home town. After the endless lockdowns the hospitality industry needs all the boosts it can get

Bloody Norah. Nobody is suggestion letting NOTHING in. But plane loads of people from places like the US and India not to mention European countries when Covid was really rampant, could have been avoided. So stop being disingenuous and work it out.

Travel was only for essential trips only though? Were people arriving from holiday without isolating?

@MamaMary

Travelling will be a luxury for the very few if this continues!

I rather think that's the idea.

Lots has been said about how climate change means we (the proles) will have to fly less from now on.

Exactly this.

The rich can preach about climate change whilst simultaneously flying in private jets and us normies can just be grateful we can travel freely around our own country.

Travel was only for essential trips only though? Were people arriving from holiday without isolating?

Yes

Apart from the vaccine programme and the furlough scheme and all the finanial help available to small businesses and £billions to the arts and heritage industry. Absolutely, what have the Romans done of us ?.

Stamp duty exemption.Dont forget that.

@Melitza ah you must mean the artificial housing bubble waiting to burst...

Why is everyone so surprised when holiday lists change?

We were all advised that foreign holidays this year was not advisable.

@Katie517

It’s an absolute joke! We are due to go end of July and will be cancelling if it doesn’t get back in the green list at the next review. It’s a farce people are vaccinated, paying for tests at their own expense at vastly inflated prices and it’s still not good enough, we are still expected to imprison ourselves in our homes on return even though we will have tested negative before getting on the plane and on day 2. Anyone who thought vaccines were our ticket to freedom must be feeling very silly now. Meanwhile business travelers and government officials can jet here there and everywhere with no isolation period, you couldn’t make this shit up.

Bit dramatic !!

Meanwhile just heard about apparent outbreaks on planes coming back from the football in Porto the other day. They’ve all been asked to isolate, despite being Double vaccinated and paying ££££ for tests which were negative.

Sadly the government doesn’t want us to go anywhere this summer, we’d better get used to it.

They were only in Portugal for a day so they never caught Covid there. If they spread it to others it's indefensible

Not everyone who travels abroad does so for leisure/holidays. My DH works in the aviation industry (in a roundabout way) and somehow he has kept his business afloat throughout Covid. He is reaching the end of the line though with what he can do without actually travelling to a Red List country in person. If he can’t travel, he loses his clients and then his business. It then means we lose our income and our home. The country he needs to travel to has a vaccination programme more advanced than ours with a vast majority of people fully vaccinated. DH will have had his second vaccine in 2 weeks. They should have brought in Vaccine Passports like was suggested with testing for people not fully vaccinated as yet. If the vaccines aren’t going to allow our lives to get back to normal then what is the point? I’ve had Covid already as have the rest of my family plus I’ve been vaccinated yet our lives are still on hold. Not sure how much more I can take.

@Frazzled2207

Meanwhile just heard about apparent outbreaks on planes coming back from the football in Porto the other day. They’ve all been asked to isolate, despite being Double vaccinated and paying ££££ for tests which were negative.

Sadly the government doesn’t want us to go anywhere this summer, we’d better get used to it.

They were double vaccinated?!

@Needanewhat

Maybe spare a thought for those of us with families abroad, whom we haven't seen for 18 months?

I have family abroad. Haven't seen them in four years.

Then you should know better than to be making idiotic and irrelevant comments about your childhood holidays.

They were double vaccinated?!

They can still spread it. Particularly because vaccines aren't 100% effective. Until the majority of the population is fully vaccinated, there's a need for precautions.

moynomore

That's like something I would expect a teenager to come out with.

It's not a magic bullet. I don't know why you'd assume we're all doomed as a result.

Then you should know better than to be making idiotic and irrelevant comments about your childhood holidays

I chose to live abroad. There are consequences that come with that.

@Gilly12345

Why is everyone so surprised when holiday lists change?

We were all advised that foreign holidays this year was not advisable.

Because the government said there would be a warning list with at least a week before they changed.

. Until the majority of the population is fully vaccinated, there's a need for precautions

And until the majority of the world is vaccinated there is a need for precautions about foreign travel.

The government advised no travel abroad l think.
Boris was lying when he said the vaccine was the passport to freedom. It may be the passport to freedom in the U.K., but until the world is vaccinated there is no passport to foreign freedom.

Surely this is just basic? For all those people ‘done’ with it. What are you going to do? We’re all sick of it. But the only way over it is through it.

Agree Arse

Trust me when I say I’m done...I’m done with the U.K. The only other option for us as a family is to permanently move to a Red List Country and rent our house out in an attempt to keep DH’s business. DH lived there for 4 years while we stayed in the U.K. and he travelled back and forth. I have complied with everything asked of me here whilst working throughout in a school. I cannot continue like this with no end in sight. I doubt 21 June will happen, Boris will no doubt find yet another reason to delay.

It's starting to get a bit silly now isn't it?

Because of "variants" (which will always exist) it's already gone from vaccinate the vulnerable ... to vaccinate all adults ... to vaccinate children too ... and now it's being seriously suggested that international leisure travel will never be possible until the entire world has been vaccinated

For any number of reasons that simply won't happen, but once again it's interesting to see that nobody making these suggestions has any comment to make about the catastrophic damage this would cause ... and they've not even started on the long-awaited "nobody can get back to normal until the NHS backlog's been cleared"

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Exactly! At what point is enough enough. A few weeks to protect the NHS has somehow turned into 18 months of what seems like trying to achieve zero Covid. I appreciate I was one of the lucky ones, I wasn’t ill with Covid. My older DS has some Long Covid symptoms (but he isn’t old enough to be vaccinated anyway) but we all need to move on with our lives and accept there will be cases of Covid and different mutations.

[quote ihearttc]@Puzzledandpissedoff

Exactly! At what point is enough enough. A few weeks to protect the NHS has somehow turned into 18 months of what seems like trying to achieve zero Covid. I appreciate I was one of the lucky ones, I wasn’t ill with Covid. My older DS has some Long Covid symptoms (but he isn’t old enough to be vaccinated anyway) but we all need to move on with our lives and accept there will be cases of Covid and different mutations.[/quote]
You and Puzzled are absolutely right

why should I stop?
Because we are in a pandemic and sitting on a sun lounger isn't the most important thing right now,