Are you one of the people who is very very reluctantly going to get vaccinated?

[Itsnotyourchoiceanymore]

Could you please tell me how you are managing the stress/anxiety surrounding it? I don’t want this vaccine- but I’m being forced to go for it. I’m so worried nervous that I cannot sleep properly.I need to book the bloody thing soon but I just cannot bring myself to do it..I’m 40 so not sure which one I’ll get.

I don't know anyone like this, and I don't woh, nor restaurants, pubs, etc.
The risk from me really would be minimal, I'm almost agorophobic.
Went out today for a prescription, usually have them delivered but gp and chemist cocked up, this month.
If I was mixing or working I wouldn't lie.

Fair dos. If you never go out and don't have kids in schools, that's different I suppose.

I have dd at school but she boards and does tests regularly, and did one before coming home at lunch.
She won't be seeing anyone other than family and they know me and dh haven't had the vaccine.

@Aalvarino no, I’m not a virologist. I just read about it earlier in the year. One paper on it:

virological.org/t/preliminary-genomic-characterisation-of-an-emergent-sars-cov-2-lineage-in-the-uk-defined-by-a-novel-set-of-spike-mutations/563

There are others on how mutations can arise during treatment of chronic infection eg

www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03291-y

I think the vaccines have done a good job of preventing serious illness and death in the most vulnerable groups. I do not agree that it is necessary to vaccinate younger, low risk people (unless they want it of course!) in order for us to end restrictions/stay out of lockdown.

@picturesandpickles

I wonder how many of the younger people being admitted are overweight/obese. Whether people like to accept it or not, it is a risk factor. presumably plenty, but that doesn't make it fine for them as individuals and looking at the bigger picture - what matters is hospitals not getting filled up.

I agree, it still helps us lower hospitalisation to vaccinated 30s and 40s

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Wow it’s all so overwhelming

It would also help lower hospitalisations (and not just from covid) if we could sort out the UKs obesity epidemic.

@Devlesko

Nobody can force you Just tell them you've had both. That's what I've started doing, they're none the wiser. I'll have it when the trial has finished, and the gineau pigs have done their bit.

Despicable.

I think despicable is my response too.

I was very, very reluctant and distressed. But was talked into it. Now I am devastated I didn’t follow my gut

Why? You appear still to be alive without dramatic after-effects. Plenty of other drama, though.

@ilovesooty

I think despicable is my response too.

Despicabel? Why?

I think it's just as inappropriate to ask people if they are vaccinated or not.
Eg my friend will start IVF next month. She has been told that if she has the vaccine, she needs to wait at least two months after it to start her cycle. Of course, this also means she is joining the back of the queue again so it will more than 2 months.
So she doesnt have the jab atm.

Does anyone really think its ok to ask people if they are vaccinated to then out people in a position where they have to explain themselves and share stuff that is really private?? Like her having to disclose that she has fetility issues?

I agree with other posters.
Yes vaccination is the quickest way to 'herd immunity' wo having people falling ill.
And yes it also allows the politicians to have more leeway. On the ground that the vaccine wil protect more or less again all variants, they can afford to open up more quickly and more carelessly, hoping that it's the vaccine that will make up for it.

But should we vaccinate people who have very low risk of serious illness NOW when we know so little about the long term effect (and we are still in the trial phase)?
Is it OK to aks people to take risks 'for the greater good' even though they are ta low risk of the illness? (Im thinking of children for example)

There are many ethical questions there. None of which have ever been ever raised. I'm wondering why....

What on earth does my response to what that poster said have to do with the situation of someone who can't have the vaccination at present because of fertility treatment?

I had it reluctantly because I believed it was the moral thing to do. Was reluctant because I suffer from severe anxiety and was terrified.
But if you are being bullied into it, that's not okay at all.

Because the answer 'I've had both' is used to just shut the conversation down. Which is exactely what you want to do when you have chose not to have the vaccine but don't want to explain why.

I said 'despicable' and this is what I was responding to.

Just tell them you've had both. That's what I've started doing, they're none the wiser. grin
I'll have it when the trial has finished, and the gineau pigs have done their bit.

All your friend has to say is 'I can't have the jab for medical reasons'. What I think is despicable is lying about it, and describing the rest of us as 'guinea pigs'.

@DreamingNow

Because the answer 'I've had both' is used to just shut the conversation down. Which is exactely what you want to do when you have chose not to have the vaccine but don't want to explain why.

You've lost me there. Never mind.

Exactly Gasp0de

Why not just say nah haven't had it, to say I've had both is odd. And then if people have an issue with you not having one you surely just tell them to foxtrot oscar. If you feel strongly enough to be against them then why not own it?

I think you are going to have to be honest and not lie. You could say that you are taking your time making the decision whether to have it or not, and that you are feeling really indecisive and every time people bring it up with you, because people in your different circles have different points of view, it is confusing your trying to make a decision on it. So could they please remember not to bring up the subject with you!

and being told by the same medical professionals to just get on with it
@NotSoLongGoodbye this has also been the attitude a couple of MNers have got after developing symptoms after having the vaccine.

Its not just the adverse reactions that some have experienced. Its the lack of help and being dismissed afterwards.

If by "being forced" you mean feeling obliged to do it because if we don't, everything stays at a standstill, kids miss school, businesses go bust, the NHS collapses and loads of people die, then yes, I felt forced too.

@TubeOfSmarties everything doesn’t stay at a standstill if younger people don’t have the vaccine. We’re already getting things up and running again and we haven’t even finished completely vaccinating the top 9 at risk groups who are the ones most likely to be putting strain on the hospitals.

I cannot see the alternative way out of this pandemic. I don't do flu vaccines and I would prefer not to get Covid vaccine but what else do you suggest to do? The virus is here to stay with us for who knows how long. We can hope that it will mutate to less contagious form but it looks like opposite is happening now.

^And how will I shut my husband?

Every time we hear of someone in the icu - both are parents/family in a country currently ravaged by Covid, it’s all about how ill end up the same
Then emotional blackmail about how will you travel if parents need us?
Then how I’m ‘half baked’ in my argument
Then it’s about how I’m a risk to us as a family-on and on and on^

It sounds like your husband really is bullying you. If he was coercing you to go on the pill, or to take the morning after pill, people wouldn't be so laissez faire about your bodily autonomy.

If you do feel you have to go for a vaccination, but want it recorded that you were forced, how about you bring a letter. Address it to the medical director of the vaccine centre and explain the ways in which you feel forced. Ask that s/he receives it before you're injected. You could cc your MP.