2nd AZ vaccine guidance likely to change?

[TulipVictory]

My second AZ vaccine is due tomorrow and I'm in two minds whether to cancel 😒

Does anyone think the guidelines will likely change soon in regard to having a different vaccine for second or AZ being banned altogether ?

If this is the case I'd rather cancel & wait.

Why would they ban the AZ jab?

No it's really unlikely to change, they don't have enough of the other vaccines available and mixing is not approved yet unless in exceptional circumstances.

Stop getting your info off social media and actually read some research papers. Pfizer also has had clots.
The clotting mechanism that is activated for this would have happened after your first. It’s incredibly rare anyway and even more do after 2nd.

Can't you just scan one of the many many existing threads.....

How old are you? Not a cat in hell's chance it will change for second jabs tbh. Have your jab, and be happy that you'll be as protected as you possibly can be, especially in the face of the Indian variant situation...

The AZ jab is incredible and so needed by so many countries. It will not be banned.

The blood clots are an extremely rare autoimmune response. As PP mentioned, they are happening with all vaccines.

The odds of this response happening for the second dose is something like 1 in 1 million. Incredibly rare.

There is a preliminary research data that indicates if you mix the vaccines, so have a virus vector and then an mRNA one or vice versa, there is an increased chance of side effects.

There as if you have two shots of the same vaccine you will only likely to have side effects, if you get them, on one of the shots.

You'll get a hard time on here OP, but I get it. Mine's due on Saturday and I'm not having it.

No it won’t change until the research is complete and shows a definite advantage that means we waste a ton of AZ.

I'm really struggling with what's best. I want to make an informed decision but feel there isn't enough data to do so 😒 tomorrow is creeping up way too quickly

@TulipVictory

I'm really struggling with what's best. I want to make an informed decision but feel there isn't enough data to do so 😒 tomorrow is creeping up way too quickly

There's a ton of data. So that's really no excuse.

I understand why people have got scared, but it's an irrational fear when you compare it to all the other risks you take without even thinking about it.

The Indian variant has made it all the more important that people have the second AZ. Just do it.

@saraclara - agree with this. There is SO much data! It just doesn't support the anti-vac narrative...

I had my second jab an hour ago - a bit concerned about feeling crappy for the next few days like I did last time, as we're going to Cornwall next week but glad I've had it.
What are you concerned about?

Blood clots reactions are much, much rarer in second doses.

It should change but it can’t change right now because there simply isn’t the supply of mRNA vaccines. There’s barely enough to complete the under 40s being prioritised for it now.

Why do you think AZ would get banned?
It has a very rare side effect in a very small minority of people as do other medicines that exist.
If you were OK with the 1st one then why do you think you wouldn't be OK with the 2nd one?

Nope. It is still the one majority will have.

I hear you @TulipVictory. Mine is due next week and I feel sick with anxiety. I know the risks are low, but they are significantly increased for certain groups, hence why the under 40s are being offered Pfizer/Moderna. I genuinely don’t know what to do.

(I am pro-vaccines and jumped at the chance to get my first jab earlier than my age group. Now I wish I hadn’t)

I also think AZ will be withdrawn

I totally get you. Luckily mine isnt until July at the moment i'm really in two minds whether to get it done. There is new data all the time.

@Ypsilanti

I also think AZ will be withdrawn

Perhaps, but unlikely in the near future. They’ll dose everyone first and then maybe think about it when they don’t need it anymore.

But, the side effects are rare. So maybe not.

I don’t get it, why would you think a mix of two vaccines would be safer?? Or even efficient.

(I had my 2nd AZ yesterday, under 40)

At the vaccination centre I work at there is no possibility of a different vaccine being given as a second dose.

I agree that potentially AZ will be phased out over time. As it's currently not recommended for those under 40 (unless as a second dose), when we get to be vaccinating only the younger generation it will be less useful to be stocking it.

Assuming there will need to be a booster at some point (annually, bi-annually or whatever they decide) it would be most efficient to have one vaccine everyone/most can have. For example - nobody asks which brand their flu vaccine is.

It's all still very much a work in progress, so realistic to think the current vaccines may be tweaked or perfected in time.

Also they are some supply issues with Pfizer (possibly regional). However much Matt Hancock claims otherwise, we have had no Pfizer for 3 weeks & have been told we'll have no more until we'll into June. When we do get it it will be for the under 40's to have first doses.

You are in the same boat as me OP mine is due next week and I am holding off as I think the advice might change for under 40s that have had one dose of AZ. I’m 32 and was so annoyed that the advice changed after my first dose ( had it early due to spare doses at a centre a family member works at) prepare to be slammed on here though as any concern around vaccines makes you a “selfish anti vaxer” according to most posters....