Take the vaccine or not

[crazemaze]

I have been invited to have my vaccine 2 months earlier than I should have been called.

However, I am feeling very conflicted and stuck on my decision to take it or not. I am a young female in her mid 20's and one side I am like do I want to inject something that is not fully tested and long term effects are not known , and the other side I am like everyone is taking it and I should take it also.

Give your views pls

@mrsbitaly

It is up to you. You clearly have doubts and have given your reasons for your doubts, are you just wanting someone to reassure you not to have it? We are so lucky to be able to have the option to have a vaccine there are so many people dying in other countries who would give their right arm for this. I will be having it, no I don't know how this will affect me in the future but I do know what COVID can do to friends and family health and lives and I'm willing to take the risk. I don't understand these posts as you will have so many opinions and so many people say its a conspiracy and all sorts. Only you know in your self if you want it or not. If you need real medical advice then speak to your doctor about your concerns.

I am just very conflicted and yes just want to hear what others have to say about it for me to be reassured that it is OK. I have heard from others and watched plenty videos and read on why you shouldn't take it, and I guess thats my stress.

No disrespect to anyone who has taken it, both my parents have but I am just not sure yet and want to ride it out for now

@crazemaze

It is your right to have the vaccine or not have it

I could spend a long time writing out a reassuring detailed post on the benefits of being vaccinated over not being vaccinated, how the testing process was robust and in line with previous vaccines, and why the risk of long term side effects is miniscule

But comments like this
I just have worries like a lot of people and its my right to feel this way, I am not going to follow a trend because everyone says so! Were not lab rats that's all.

make me think it wouldn't make a difference?

Good news, it is fully tested. A combination of using pressuring work, plus a massive world effort and pretty much unlimited funds has reduced the timeframe for it to go through the exact same processes and check that any other vaccine does.
You’re perfectly entitled to make whatever decision you like of course, you’re even entitled to think you know better than the worlds top scientific and medical minds if you so choose.

Thank you all for your thoughts.

I just don't want to rush in a decision, I may regret or not regret later. Some people are so quick to attack you for even feeling like you have a right to doubt it for obvious reasons. It is just something I am going to educate myself more on and hopefully make the right decision soon

Vaccines take years to come out and years of testing, and this one has come out in a year. Pardon my worries

No, they often take years to develop because of resource issues.

I am a bit suspicious of your posts, because they contain all the usual anti-vax buzzwords.

@crazemaze therein lies your problem - you're watching garbage videos full of lies and conspiracy theories. Why were you even drawn into that crap in the first place? At the point if you aren't convinced after more than a billion people worldwide have had the vaccine, including the very old, frail, sick, immunocomprised, cancer patients, care home residents etc, then nothing will convince you. You keep doing you.

FWIW right now I don't think it matters too much (on a population level) about the level of refusal we have

As long as the jabs are going into someones arm and the roll out isn't being slowed down (for the love of god just tell admin staff you don't want it instead of complaining about being harassed by phonecalls/letters), we're making good progress. In general, millenials/genx seem to be far more socially conscious/scientifically literate compared to the boomers and so hope fully we'll see a good uptake in those age groups.

By the time everyone who wants a vaccine has been given it, hopefully that will have given people who've refused it more time to be reassured by the emerging data on safety. (Or indeed depending on efficacy it might not even matter to population level immunity and they can happily ride it out on herd immunity)

@pinkearedcow

Vaccines take years to come out and years of testing, and this one has come out in a year. Pardon my worries

No, they often take years to develop because of resource issues.

I am a bit suspicious of your posts, because they contain all the usual anti-vax buzzwords.

Suspicious of what being anxious and feeling entitled to have an opinion on a vaccine that has come out very quick.

If people are so quick to attack those who are unsure then educate them correctly and weigh out the good/bad. Its not that hard.

I haven’t done much reading on the vaccine but the little I have done make it clear that this one was developed so quickly because funding and willing volunteers were available in a way that doesn’t usually happen.
So I can understand why people are sceptical of your comment that you’ve done research.

Also in order to be approved vaccines need to meet strict standards. The last thing the government wants is people dropping like flies or suing them.
So in your shoes I would have it.

Suspicious of what being anxious and feeling entitled to have an opinion on a vaccine that has come out very quick.

If people are so quick to attack those who are unsure then educate them correctly and weigh out the good/bad. Its not that hard.

@crazemaze

I'm really happy to try and provide answers to answer specific qs you have about the vaccine and it's development

But you can appreciate posters get a bit tired of writing out long ass posts which they've carefully fact checked when it quickly becomes clear the OP doesn't want to engage and isn't posting in good faith

I just think the whole thing has been overwhelming for everyone. There are people who still believe Covid was made up by the Government so its not uncommon to have worries about vaccines either. I have a lot of respect for all those who have helped front line but It doesn't mean I am not allowed to have my worries. I originally was going to take it and then changed my mind and now I am conflicted again.

Like I keep saying, I just need to have a longer think about it and educate myself more it before I make any decision.

@crazemaze

Thank you all for your thoughts.

I just don't want to rush in a decision, I may regret or not regret later. Some people are so quick to attack you for even feeling like you have a right to doubt it for obvious reasons. It is just something I am going to educate myself more on and hopefully make the right decision soon

Excellent. Given the vast and extraordinary volume of material both here and elsewhere for this very purpose, I suggest you go away and do just that. Surely by now you know these questions have been answered literally everywhere?

There are people who still believe Covid was made up by the Government so its not uncommon to have worries about vaccines either.

but surely this is irrelevant to your decision making about having the vaccine unless you also believe it?

Of course if you genuinely think COVID isn't real you're not going to want a vaccine and would be very suspicious of what on earth you were being injected with

@Brokensharted

Nobody gives a fuck if you have it or not.

Clearly cared enough to comment that. 🙂

It's come out quickly because of resources

Let's say you usually have two builders building a house, and they're limited on time and also by budget
Now imagine 10 doing the same house, no time restrictions, and no budget plus as many outside contractors as they need
One is going to be completed faster, but still built safely

Why are you watching videos by uninformed nuts telling you not to have it when the consensus from medical professionals is that you should?
Listen to scientists not know it all’s and self proclaimed experts on YouTube

I think that

• the chances of side effects are tiny
• it will be a pain in the arse not to have it for travel etc
• obviously there is also the ‘it protects other people and that in turn also the country to keep going and the economy to get off its arse’ argument.

If you are really doubtful book a phone chat with GP? Because you will get some mad fuckers on here.

@partyatthepalace

I think that

• the chances of side effects are tiny
• it will be a pain in the arse not to have it for travel etc
• obviously there is also the ‘it protects other people and that in turn also the country to keep going and the economy to get off its arse’ argument.

If you are really doubtful book a phone chat with GP? Because you will get some mad fuckers on here.

Agree with you. I will do just that

Have it, don't have it. Like everything else that is presented as a choice, it's up to you. You're an adult, why do you need other adults to tell you you what to do?

@footballmom great post

@trappedsincesundaymorn

Have it, don't have it. Like everything else that is presented as a choice, it's up to you. You're an adult, why do you need other adults to tell you you what to do?

I am not asking other adults what to do. I am just gathering thoughts from others and see what everyones opinions are.

If you'd like to educate yourself about the covid-19 vaccines, then the information is here: www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/coronavirus-vaccine/.

If you'd prefer that unscrupulous individuals make profit from lying to you, then just keep clicking on those video links instead.

these threads are getting boring and i do wish OPs did their research

these vaccines have had the same rigorous testing as any other vaccine. most non covid vaccines take years to be tested because of a lack of funding and a lack of active illness - they don’t usually inject volunteers with illnesses for the sake of testing a vaccine

the covid vaccines have gone through all of the same testing as other vaccines but because of finding and because of there being enough of the illness around they could run each test in parallel - without waiting for months or years of funding to get to the next stage of testing

so one study looked at 100, another looked at thousands say - at the same time

but no corners have been cut

there are side effects with any medicine or vaccine - do you or have you taken any other prescription medicine in your life? if so did you pay as much heed to the side effects leaflet

with AZ the risk is 1 in 80,000 for a 30 year old - no vaccine or medicine would usually have sufficient volunteers to be able to find that risk during trials - you would need millions of volunteers to get any meaningful data on that risk during a trial

Oh look. Another one who has managed to read up on all the "bad" things about vaccines but has somehow managed to miss every fucking rebuttal, debunking and positive article in the process.