Indian variant in London

[Tealightsandd]

Huge number of cases in London - and it's spreading rapidly. London is higher risk already due to density of population and being frontline of international travel.

The other areas with high rates of the Indian variant are doing surge vaccination. They've been sent extra supply and vaccines are being offered to all over 18s.

Why aren't Londoners being offered the same protection?

Bearing in mind (for the many who don't care about Londoners) that people are much more likely to travel to and from London across the country - potentially spreading it out elsewhere. So it's in the interests of the whole country to give London the same protection offered to Bolton and Blackburn.

Long story short - positive tests are up 9% as of today. Hospitalisations are down 9%.

@Watapalava

Mrsmonet

The op has made this anti London which no one was

Think was purely based on data

Nope. It's the likes of you - who barged in with anti London posts. Gems of wisdom like a PP's succinct 'fuck London'....

I posted asking for ALL areas of concern to get surge vaccinated. The responses were a barrage of toddler tantrums about why the NW and ONLY the NW apparently should have it. Nevermind Glasgow and Bedford & two other non NW England areas in need.

London had the highest number of confirmed or probable cases of B.1.617.2, followed by the North-West on 319, with 98 in the South-East.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/indian-covid-variant-london-uk-cases-b935080.html

Has there been selective quoting again? Haven't had time to catch up on the thread.

Those who have the chance to read the thread, will know that Bromley was brought up because a poster linked a graph from a Guardian article.

The graph indicated Bromley had a high rate of the Indian strain. Anyone who wants to take a look can scroll back through the thread to see the Guardian link.

For anyone in Bromley, I've just checked on the Zoe App.

Bromley has 349 cases per million, and around 115 active cases.

Presumably (according to the Guardian article graph, 40% of those cases are the Indian strain. (The graph is based ondata from Public Health England)

On the other side of London, Brent has 1641 cases per million, and 540 active cases.

Richmond looks quite high too (compared to Bromley). 1425 cases per million and 278 active cases.

If I get the chance, I'll go through every borough - so we can add together the total number of cases in London.

From the Zoe app: seems like the hardest hit areas are in the north.

I’m a bit confused why they’re not reporting this apparent deluge of London cases

Just take the total number for London from the dashboard: coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=London.
287 today.

My OP asking that London is included (I highlight included since include doesn't mean being the only one) in surge vaccinations is very reasonable.

Given that

a) London has the highest rates of the Indian strain

and

b) Was already behind on the rollout - and not only because of hesitancy but also because, as Sadiq Khan raised as an issue a while back, London was given a lower share at the start.

London's vaccine rollout continues to lag behind other regions.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/london-weekly-covid-cases-rise-vaccine-rollout-lockdown-b935051.html

There isn't a deluge of cases in London, but there are apparently a higher proportion that are Indian variant. A few MSOA look to have higher cases, if needed they should also get surge testing and extra vaccines, but that isn't needed for all of London just pockets.

@MRex

Just take the total number for London from the dashboard: coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=London. 287 today.

@Mrex The Zoe app gives all active cases, not just today's new ones.

It's the total number of active cases that is important to know.

There's more than 278 active cases in just one borough (Brent).

If there are 115 active cases in Bromley, then it's a low percentage as there is a population of around 300,000 in the Borough.

@alphajuliet123
They are reporting it. See the article I posted above.

The concern (amongst government and scientists) is the Indian strain. As reported in the article linked upthread, London has the highest number of cases of the Indian variant of concern.

@MrsMonet

If there are 115 active cases in Bromley, then it's a low percentage as there is a population of around 300,000 in the Borough.

Yes it does seem to be a lower number than some of the other London boroughs.

As I've said, the Guardian article graph must've mentioned Bromley because of a high percentage of its cases being the Indian variant of concern.

@MRex

There isn't a deluge of cases in London, but there are apparently a higher proportion that are Indian variant. A few MSOA look to have higher cases, if needed they should also get surge testing and extra vaccines, but that isn't needed for all of London just pockets.

Why wait for it to leak into the other boroughs? Yes I know the whole UK pandemic approach has been one horse bolting after another - but just for once we could try proactive prevention. Catching up in London is well overdue. London is already behind on the rollout, and has suffered the highest death rates through most of the pandemic (see my posts of yesterday with linked articles).

Here is the last 7 days data for the highest infection rates.

Bolton leads with 192.7 new cases per 100,000 population.

Brent - 27.6
Bromley - 12.9
Newham - 12.5

Anywhere else I should check in London?

coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/cases?areaType=region&areaName=London

There’s a reason the current live broadcast is heavily focused on Bolton OP🙈

For info, the number of vaccines given to each area initially was based on the annual uptake of the flu vaccine

That’s how it was initially calculated

Perhaps London has a younger population or lower uptake of that

@MrsMonet

I never understand the anti London sentiment on Mumsnet. The majority of us are just like everyone else in the country, working to pay mortgages, feed our kids, keep a roof over our heads. London isn't all like the West End and Made in Chelsea.

Toddler mindset adults. They see someone having something else and they want it too....even it it's something no normal person would want. Two thirds of all UK families in homeless temporary accommodation are in London. The toddler mindset anti Londoners scream and have a tantrum because they want what London's got. They want the worst homelessness in the UK because why should London have it...tantrum tantrum etc

Op you sound like a 5 year old do grow up

@watapalava

It was a lower share.

“Toddler mindset adults. They see someone having something else and they want it too....”

#irony

Clever isn't it, selective out of context quoting @alphajuliet123

You forgot to add '...even when it's something no normal person would want'...

[quote Tealightsandd]@watapalava

It was a lower share.[/quote]
Perhaps a lower share get an annual flu shot??

Not everyone is out to screw London.

But you seem to be missing that while there may be more cases, it’s a lower share than other places.

Hence they need surge vaccinations more