Indian variant in London

[Tealightsandd]

Huge number of cases in London - and it's spreading rapidly. London is higher risk already due to density of population and being frontline of international travel.

The other areas with high rates of the Indian variant are doing surge vaccination. They've been sent extra supply and vaccines are being offered to all over 18s.

Why aren't Londoners being offered the same protection?

Bearing in mind (for the many who don't care about Londoners) that people are much more likely to travel to and from London across the country - potentially spreading it out elsewhere. So it's in the interests of the whole country to give London the same protection offered to Bolton and Blackburn.

I mean, this thread was asking for London to be included. As well as other high rate areas. Yet somehow that's apparently being the 'focus'.

God what are you on OP?!?! It’s not about being anti London

What’s odd is your obsession with feeling victimised dispite there being other higher risk areas than London who aren’t having vaccine surges either but don’t hear you mentioning them

But, there is one thing a lot of them are too thick to realise.

London being the 'focus' has many many people travelling from all over the country in and out everyday.

Fail to protect London... and the virus will spread out to the rest of the UK.

Oh - and if London's so safe, let's see a full return for MPs. No more remote parliament.

I’m assuming this is a WUM

It's not me playing 'victim' @Watapalava

I politely and calmly suggested that London, as a recognised and reported area of concern, was included in surge vaccinations. Like I said, AS WELL AS the other areas of concern.

What has followed has been a slew of 'victimised' bigoted posts, screaming about London being some sort of 'focus' and 'But we're worse and only we can have the surge vaccines' toddler tantrums.

Oh - and a charming bit of wit from JeanClaudeVanDammit of 'fuck London'.

You seem very angry about my suggestion to surge vaccinating all high risk areas, including London.

Why is that?

Mrex this is exactly what I thought, low numbers in Bromley. A lot of commuters but there is everywhere to be honest. If its seeded it will spread

@Tealightsandd - people are discussing where cases are high right now. You can't pick Bromley because it has so few cases, it doesn't matter if half were Indian variant if there's just a few cases per day. It only matters if there is significant spread.

@MRex
I didn't pick Bromley. Someone else posted a graph, ironically intended to argue London rates weren't high...the graph indicated a very high rate for Bromley. Maybe that graph has it wrong?

Regardless of Bromley, London as a whole is being included as a reported area of concern. As per the article I linked upthread.

Perhaps the graph was compiled by someone with poor knowledge of London? Maybe they mistook Bromley for Brent?

Wow just wow wonder why northerns don't like southern when people get pissy like this about somewhere getting a bit more help when they are in need

Could any of the people bleating London's cause actually share up to date rate date i.e. per population not totals to support your case?

I'm in the Home Counties and an issue in London would affect me far more than the NW, but so far I've seen nothing in this thread to give cause for alarm or special treatment.

@2bunny
RTFT. It's actually the other way round.

inews.co.uk/news/politics/extra-vaccine-doses-in-indian-variant-hotspot-1000734

Some 'bleating' from the media @Lochroy

Looks like what I asked for - ALL areas of concern will be getting extra vaccines. Good call.

The government/media are being cagey about London's actual rates - and remember it's data has been split into individual boroughs (which will artificially lower the numbers) but it's clearly enough to worry the government. Presumably because if it gets out of control in London, It's a risk to the rest of the country. So many people travel in and out every day.

Infections from India variant are rising quickly in Bolton, Blackburn, Sefton, Bedford, London and Glasgow, raising fears over UK’s roadmap out of lockdown

Alongside London, the other area of concern in the south seems to be Bedford.

But do you realise that surge vaccinating London, that means other people elsewhere have to go without?

@DumplingsAndStew

But do you realise that surge vaccinating London, that means other people elsewhere have to go without?

Likewise the other areas of concern. I don't get your point?

Presumably the government has decided to surge in the areas of concern... because they are areas of concern.

Separately, London has been behind on the vaccine rollout because it was given a lower share from the start (like I said upthread, some areas like Bromley were still on 45+ last weekend).

Does anyone know if the LFT picks up this variant?

The surge vaccination is in an area with lower than average take up rates in the population. Certain areas with high Asian populations aren't as affected because the public health has been working very closely to get the vaccine rates up

@TheUnquestionedAnswer
I'm not sure. It would be good to know.

@Tealightsandd

If you are 38+ or have underlying health conditions you can book your vaccine now anyway, even in London. The council up in Blackburn wants to roll out vaccination for 18+ because there's a specific spike in young people. There's no need to panic, the figures are not that high

@Tealightsandd

I'm a Londoner who saw the light and moved away, London sucks the lifeblood out of the country, 10x more spend on transport, far higher on schools, wages far higher, buying up houses where we are as second homes and pricing locals out ... if you want to see suffering go north, see towns with 30%+ unemployment, no hope

They were doing drop in clinics for 45+. I have friends in the area and they saw the advert in local press. It might've been a misprint, I guess?

I hope you're right. Definitely best not to panic, that's for sure. Hopefully the surge vaccinations in the areas of concern will be enough to contain this. It might be - which would be great

I live in Bromley. In the last week I've visited the boroughs of Westminster, the City, Southwark, and Lewisham. If it is here, it will spread quickly.

However, I have to say I found that chart bizarre. I thought cases here were practically zero!