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30-35 waiting, 35-40 endlessly trying - jab updates

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Imfedupwithallofthis · 10/05/2021 13:45

As the title says, taking over from

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4229167-35-39-waiting-40-42-endlessly-trying-and-42-jab-updates

OP posts:
Imfedupwithallofthis · 22/05/2021 03:14

To all of you 30 - 33 year old and younger, still waiting.
This thread was started on 10 May, less than 2 weeks ago.
At that time, only 40+ were being offered via booking site. Now we're down to 34 officially, 32 unofficially.

It's hard when you are waiting, but in reality the vaccination programme is whizzing by quite quickly.

OP posts:
MapleBee · 22/05/2021 05:17

They may have opened lots of new age categories in a short space of time but there’s nothing available for days/weeks unless you can drive 50 miles

Imfedupwithallofthis · 22/05/2021 07:10

My daughter booked before it was officially open for her age group.
I warned her that she might have to travel a distance, might get a local one if she waited a week or so.
She did have to travel - all of 5 miles to the next town.

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lap90 · 22/05/2021 07:12

I'm pretty impressed with how quick they are getting through the 30's.

It all seemed so slow for a while and i saw friends in the US getting both their vaccines and being done with it.

Hopefully i'll be eligible to book early next week. Although if there are any walk in places near you... that's also an option for your eligible age group. One i might take up depending on booking availability.

wendz86 · 22/05/2021 07:17

Officially 32 or over . Definitely keep trying if you are unable to travel as they add different places at different times.

Doomsdayisstillcoming · 22/05/2021 07:22

@lap90

I'm pretty impressed with how quick they are getting through the 30's.

It all seemed so slow for a while and i saw friends in the US getting both their vaccines and being done with it.

Hopefully i'll be eligible to book early next week. Although if there are any walk in places near you... that's also an option for your eligible age group. One i might take up depending on booking availability.

What is impressive?

Step 1) Procure shit tonne of vaccines
Step 2) Shove vaccines in arms
Step 3) Have a population who generally believe in the greater good.

We did 1) well because we are a wealthy nation with strong pharmaceutical links. Step 2) is down to the hard work of thousands of people across this country. 3) the majority of the people in the U.K. get it, they understand why we are doing this.

However, just because we are doing well, does not mean we could be doing better.

If you had used the doses given thus far, especially those given to the under 50s, in a targeted manner to those in areas most likely to experience outbreaks, you would have crushed the residual covid levels. Any uptick in cases from any new, potentially, difficult variants would be obvious and stamped down upon (if you had decent T&T).

We now are in a very tight race between covid rising and vaccinating the final age groups. We should win, because we can just throw money (vaccines) at it, but it didn’t need to be this close run a race.

lurker101 · 22/05/2021 07:49

@Imfedupwithallofthis

To all of you 30 - 33 year old and younger, still waiting. This thread was started on 10 May, less than 2 weeks ago. At that time, only 40+ were being offered via booking site. Now we're down to 34 officially, 32 unofficially.

It's hard when you are waiting, but in reality the vaccination programme is whizzing by quite quickly.

So true. Do we think by this time next week it could be open to the eldest under 30s? Maybe 28,29 year olds?
AlexandraEiffel · 22/05/2021 08:03

@Runwayqueen

I'm having mine tomorrow morning. I am extremely needle phobic and have had a traumatic week after 8 failed cannulations (dental sedation appointment). Will I be allowed to take dp for support? I know every centre is different, but just wondered if I may be able to take him.
When I had mine there was an older woman there with someone accompanying her. There was no issue, no questioning it making a fuss or anything. They were just kind and moved her through the queue quicker. I know it's a different thing but the atmosphere was very much busy and efficient but also kind and caring and responding to need. So in my experience they'd be accommodating. Hope it goes well for you
alahwvaha · 22/05/2021 09:04

@MapleBee

They may have opened lots of new age categories in a short space of time but there’s nothing available for days/weeks unless you can drive 50 miles
This is simply not true. I could have booked 2 miles from my house and got a vaccine on Thursday this week. I chose to drive a bit further and get one today instead.
WombatChocolate · 22/05/2021 09:09

It’s always been the way that when the jab opens up to a new age group, demand in the first few days is extremely high and most people can only book appointments that are very immediate by travelling some distance. But usually within a week there are lots of closer appointments.

Doomsday, there has been lots of discussion about whether it would have been better to have a different rollout model...geographically based, occupationally based etc, instead of broadly age based. The verdict has been at each stage, that speed is the name of the game and speed and efficiency happen best with the simplest model which is age and which NHS records have information on. Trying to adjust part way through, away from an age model, to one based on specific locations, which would be mean diverting supply in what is a highly complicated logistics system, has been deemed to be likely to deliver less good outcomes, with downsides exceeding upsides if it, when looked at on a macro level. Instead, they stick with the simple system of age, but also are able to have extra fragmented interventions, such as extra jab supply for some areas which need it, or flexibility to offer to multi generational households all at once in areas where that could be useful, or to offer vaccine buses and drop ins in areas of lower uptake.

The difficulty has always been supply. It is looking better now, but there were 6 weeks when there wasn’t enough supply to deliver the necessary 2nd doses to time AND to do more than 100k 1st doses per day. But lots of reports suggest everyone might have been offered the 1st jab now by the end of jUne and not July. And the issue remains of getting people to actually be jabbed and not delay by weeks and weeks.

I actually think it has been very impressive and the system has been evolving all the time to reflect supply and the potential barriers to uptake in different areas. At each stage, GPs have been strongly encouraged to follow up those not jabbed and to be creative in finding ways to reach those not coming forward and reduce health inequalities. From sessions in Churches and Mosques, to vaccine buses parked near the shops those not getting jabs are most likely to shop in, to late night sessions, to jabbing door to door, to multi generational household invites to all attend together, to multiple phone calls and texts and not signing off groups until multiple efforts have been made to Rex h everyone, this massive logistical exercise to deliver 53m jabs x2, strikes me as a logistical exercise with huge amounts of success. Yes, no doubt there are some individuals who have had to travel further than they would like and some who didn’t get invited when they should have, but when you are running a system like this which in many ways has to be board brush and focused on the big picture of millions and speed, rather than every individual experience, that cannot be totally avoided.

What impresses me is the fact that the system is geared up both for speed and also is nuanced enough to scoop up those who don’t quite fit into the mass speedy rollout. The mass centres and national booking system allows the fast rollout and for more people to be jabbed sooner. But for anyone who cannot book there or can’t travel, there are lots of things in place to mean they do get mopped up and will be offered the jab in various locations or by various methods, so they can get done. It uses a lot of resources to reach some if these people, but they are being put into it.

I think the message has very much moved more to ‘get the jab immediately’ with a stronger focus on getting in with it. The government has to balance that sense of urgency against people feeling pressured beyond what is acceptable and can be counter productive.

And did you see the numbers jabbed yesterday? And watch out for bigger numbers in the coming weeks. I find it incredibly impressive.

EasterIssland · 22/05/2021 09:22

I had my second vaccine booked for coming Monday 5 miles away from home. I cancelled last Monday and got it for last Wednesday at 3m

I think people need to be realistic. My sil refuses to drive despite she doesn’t work during the week and happily drives to town or pub or shopping centre. But the vaccine ? Oh god no! She wants it in the local gp. So despite she’s been able to get it for over a week now she’s still waiting for the gp which doesn’t look like are calling her age.

People need to be realistic , not everyone can drive but some can and driving 10-20miles isn’t that much. You’d def do it for other things

Lockheart · 22/05/2021 09:22

@MapleBee

They may have opened lots of new age categories in a short space of time but there’s nothing available for days/weeks unless you can drive 50 miles
Eh? I booked mine last night and my centre is only a couple of miles away.
WombatChocolate · 22/05/2021 09:38

I agree about people needing to be realistic.

There IS provision for those who cannot travel. There are voluntary organisations taking people all kinds of distances so they can get their jab ASAP all over the country. However, lots of people don’t want to use them. People who cannot travel due to medical issues have largely been jabbed in earlier groups. Those who still have significant medical issues can call their GP and explain and special arrangements can be made for them.

However, there are large numbers of people who don’t fall into these categories but simply would prefer a more local jab and especially if they have ever heard of anyone getting it nearby. Reasons cited include things like being at work, sorting out childcare, not liking driving to places they don’t know, and simply being willing to wait. People forget that the local centres that offered first jabs to cohorts 1-9 aren’t all offering 1st jabs to the under 50s. The majority of supply is at the mass centres. These centres operate 7 days a week and are open until 8pm in many cases. A range of dates is available and for most people, with some planning, most people can find a slot within a couple of weeks. They might need to go at the weekend or in an evening, or they might need to spend some time working out the route, but for most people these are minor barriers which can be overcome. For those who genuinely cannot make the journey, mop up will eventually come, but there are so many people who simply want greater convenience and who could get on and book but don’t. If they don’t, eventually they will be followed up like those who genuinely couldn’t get to the mass centres.....but it might be 3 or 4 weeks later.

It’s interesting that a number of people seem to feel no urgency about getting jabbed. They would rather wait 3-4 weeks for the very Oli cal appointment (which they hope will come) rather than book a weekend appointment if work is an issue, or look into making the 20 mile journey which could get them the jab in 3 days rather than 3 weeks. Is a lot of this about low level hesitancy actually and that people aren’t that keen and actually procrastinating a bit too?

The message is, get the jab as soon as you possibly can. Do what it takes to get booked sooner rather than later. Some people have no choice but to wait for a mop-up in their area, but lots can get booked much sooner than they do, but the reality is they aren’t prioritising getting the jab and finding ways to make it happen, for whatever reasons.

Tinks177 · 22/05/2021 09:38

Availability does seem to differ across the country. It seems pretty limited here at the moment and I've chosen instead to do a 40 mile round trip this weekend so I can get it asap rather than wait any longer. I am in a fortunate position to be able to do that. I do wish there was a way of checking for closer appointments after booking though rather than having to cancel just to see what's available.

knittingaddict · 22/05/2021 09:45

My 33 year old daughter got her text today and booked both jabs with the first one on 6th June. It was a different centre to the one we used, possibly due to needing the phizer one? It's 4 miles from her home.

WombatChocolate · 22/05/2021 09:55

Tinks, you’ll be so glad when you’ve had the jab and I’m sure the couple of hours or half-day it takes up will feel worth it.

I find I can easily spend the time it takes to drive a 40 mile round trip faffing on MN and wasting time....your use of the time will be much more purposeful and worthwhile.

You’re right, some people wouldn’t be able to make a 40 mile round trip. By keeping looking at the site and waiting a few days (and it might feel longer but isn’t often more than a few days) should get a closer appointment. But also, again, lots of people COULD make the round trip that you are and they would do it for other things that they have simply judged to be more worth their time and effort. More people could find a slot of time across the 7 days and 12 hour shifts if vaccines where they could make the journey, or find a few hours of childcare, or take a friend in the car with them to wait with the kids whilst nipping in for the jab, or friend a friend who will drive them, or identify some public transport that will take them, or contact one of the voluntary services for a lift. And actually lots of those not booking DO have cars but would just prefer not to travel and would like the jab locally. Well wouldn’t everyone really....but most people, have grasped that it’s so much more efficient to run fewer large centres and that in times of an emergency you just suck up the minor inconvenience. And for lots of people that’s what the barriers to getting there are....a minor inconvenience of giving up half a day on Saturday when they might rather spend time doing something else instead and then nip down to a local place instead for the jab.

The system isn’t perfect in the sense some people think it should be. It can’t offer everyone when they first become eligible an appointment within 3 days and within 5 miles. And people get cross and moany about it.....that they had to look at the booking site 6 times to find somewhere within 30 miles, or they had to book a site where you pay for parking, or they had to book 12 days in the future, or that they could get an appointment tomorrow but would need to go 25 miles. I think people want too much and forget it’s not just them but 53m x2 which need to happen and that actually they might have to suck up a little inconvenience to make it happen......in the context of everything else that’s happened, it is less of a big deal than lots of people seem to make out. (And again, there will be local provision for those who genuinely cannot travel...the system fully acknowledges those people exist)

ShrinkingViolet9 · 22/05/2021 10:09

This morning the NHS booking site is open to:

32 or over
32 before 1 July 2021

Imfedupwithallofthis · 22/05/2021 10:10

@WombatChocolate

Well said

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MapleBee · 22/05/2021 10:43

@alahwvaha

Lucky you, you must live in a part of the country where appointments are available.

MapleBee · 22/05/2021 10:44

@Lockheart

You must live in a part of the country where appointments are available.

WombatChocolate · 22/05/2021 11:01

Maple, have you booked?

How long ago did you first become eligible?

I think lots of people are finding they can get an appointment within 2 weeks if they will travel and if not, they need to book further ahead or look back again several times to get something closer, which might be a longer time off. It's simply still that demand is exceeding supply.

Anyway, hope you managed to book even if some distance or time away and at least you know you're in the system....or if not, hope you find something that works by looking over weekend. Have you tried calling 119 - they might be able to see a a wider range of appointments in terms of time or distance and be able to book you in closer, even if it's for several weeks off, if travel is not possible for you. Good luck.

alahwvaha · 22/05/2021 11:26

[quote MapleBee]@alahwvaha

Lucky you, you must live in a part of the country where appointments are available.[/quote]
Yes, so saying "there’s nothing available for days/weeks unless you can drive 50 miles" isn't accurate really is it. I'm sorry there isn't anything suitable for you because of your particular circumstances but it's silly to expect everywhere to stop offering appointments for lower age ranges until there is one available specifically for you.

ollyollyoxenfree · 22/05/2021 11:56

Hello everyone Brew

Was just wondering if anyone knows when a hopeful 31 year old in the south-west might be expected to be invited for vaccination?

I keep worrying that I'm going to just miss receiving my text!

ollyollyoxenfree · 22/05/2021 11:57

@ShrinkingViolet9

This morning the NHS booking site is open to:

32 or over
32 before 1 July 2021

ahh just saw this @ShrinkingViolet9

sounds promising Grin

WombatChocolate · 22/05/2021 12:01

Remember you can book if you meet the age eligibility on the NHS booking page, even if you haven't had a text asking you to book.

Just keep checking on the front page.

And actually, it's worth inputting your data anyway even if you're a year younger as often the system makes you eligible to book before the front page is updated. Don't worry about queue jumping....the system simply won't let you book if you're not eligible.

31 won't be long now.

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