No more masks in classrooms - hurray!

[TeddingtonTrashbag]

Hurray!
I am a secondary teacher and just hope it really happens.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/05/06/exclusive-end-masks-classroom-boris-johnson-defies-unions/

@Mistressinthetulips

Storing the masks isn't a problem at the moment, as you are meant to store them on your face. I would recommend switching to a new one after lunch as they will get warm/dampish. Storing was more of an issue when they were worn only in the corridors.

Warm and dampish - over your mouth and nose. Yep no way that's not going to encourage germs to thrive? They hate warm and damp places to lurk.

@noblegiraffe

Oh that's ok then. As long as no-one has the medical grade masks that's alright.

No, it’s your implied suggestion that anything other than a medical grade mask is useless.

Why, by the way, do you keep ignoring the advice from the government’s scientific advisers saying it’s important to keep masks in schools? You’ve yet to pass comment on it yet reply to everything else.

It’s really baffling.

They're scientific advisors. Not psychologists. So of course they will say masks are needed. Lets be really honest here, they would absolutely suggest that kids weren't in school at all if it was based on the science of epidemiology. Unfortunately there has to be a balanced argument against their use which (as documented in the press this week) was never considered. Have a think about that. The people telling us to use the masks on our children NEVER considered or looked at the negatives. That doesn't sit uneasy with you?

And yet attendance is not being adversely affected by kids getting sick from masks. If it was a problem, wouldn’t we see it by now?

Still no comment on this?
www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/156628/cloth-mouth-masks-from-avrox-luxembourg-belgium-government-distributed-free-to-pharmacies-may-be-toxic/

@noblegiraffe

And yet attendance is not being adversely affected by kids getting sick from masks. If it was a problem, wouldn’t we see it by now?

Attendance? So that's the benchmark? Just because can cope doesn't mean they should have to. It's been cited many times that we won't know the adverse affects of how children have been treated for years.

They're scientific advisors. Not psychologists. So of course they will say masks are needed.

To mitigate the spread of covid. You keep trying to make out it’s for no reason.

Attendance? So that's the benchmark?

You’re the one talking about germy damp masks over faces being a problem. You certainly seemed to suggest it was making them ill. But now not ill enough to miss school, some other illness that is nonetheless unacceptable.

@noblegiraffe

They're scientific advisors. Not psychologists. So of course they will say masks are needed.

To mitigate the spread of covid. You keep trying to make out it’s for no reason.

How have I said anywhere it's for no reason. As I've said many times, masks (proper quality) worn properly of course can HELP on reduced spread if someone is coughing all over. However with testing, social distancing and the fact you can't send your child to school with so much as an itchy eye I believe the negatives (which have never been considered by sage as reported this week) outweigh the good. I'm entitled to my opinion.

@noblegiraffe

Attendance? So that's the benchmark?

You’re the one talking about germy damp masks over faces being a problem. You certainly seemed to suggest it was making them ill. But now not ill enough to miss school, some other illness that is nonetheless unacceptable.

Yeah, what a lunatic thinking damp wet and warm cloths touched by teenagers might be full of germs!

However with testing, social distancing and the fact you can't send your child to school with so much as an itchy eye

What social distancing? Do you think there is social distancing in schools?

And I’m pretty sure you can send your kid to school with an itchy eye.

damp wet and warm cloths touched by teenagers might be full of germs!

And yet....seemingly not making them ill. Despite all the claims from the anti maskers before their introduction that we would see loads of bacterial lung infections.

@noblegiraffe

damp wet and warm cloths touched by teenagers might be full of germs!

And yet....seemingly not making them ill. Despite all the claims from the anti maskers before their introduction that we would see loads of bacterial lung infections.

Seemingly covid doesn't make kids ill either. Seemingly.

You even see adults grabbing them out of their pockets to put on when they go into shops and constantly touching them. I have no problem with me and even my kids wearing masks to go in shops or whatever I just don’t agree with wearing them ALL day in schools at all! My daughters main lessons are drama and music both cannot be taught wearing masks. The vaccines are clearly the reason our cases and more importantly hospitalisations are so low not children wearing masks! We have all done as we are told but now there is a vaccine I think children should be made a priority. My daughters teacher said they have so many children seeking help for mental health this past year the wait list is so long that is my main concern for my children!

@noblegiraffe

However with testing, social distancing and the fact you can't send your child to school with so much as an itchy eye

What social distancing? Do you think there is social distancing in schools?

And I’m pretty sure you can send your kid to school with an itchy eye.

My daughter is in a bubble. No extra curriculum stuff happening. Vertical forms cancelled. Seating plans. None of that happening in your school? That's concerning!

Seemingly covid doesn't make kids ill either.

That’s not why we had masks in classrooms. Nor to protect teachers. But because a pool of unmitigated covid infection swilling in the community leaks.

My daughter is in a bubble. No extra curriculum stuff happening. Vertical forms cancelled. Seating plans. None of that happening in your school?

But she is not staying 2m away from people, no? Which is what people usually mean when they refer to social distancing.

However with testing, social distancing and the fact you can't send your child to school with so much as an itchy eye I believe the negatives (which have never been considered by sage as reported this week) outweigh the good.

The testing used is notoriously unreliable (3-50% of PCR positives picked up, probably closer to the lower figure), there is no social distancing at all in schools, and the rules on other illnesses remain unchanged from before Covid.....

But she is not staying 2m away from people, no? Which is what people usually mean when they refer to social distancing.

Exactly. I am not sure that a seating plan, in which every child is touching at least one other child, and which gives a maximum of 75 cm between pupils (and slightly less than that between the pupils at the front of the class and the teacher) is social DISTANCING...

20 people died today in the UK and over 2000 new cases.

We have 3 rules re:masks in our household, but it seems that we are from another planet as not even our teen son has a problem with keeping adhering to these:

1. change them every day or after about 10 hrs of wear
2. when not on face keep them in a ziplock bag/original sealed package
3. we only have n95 masks. No fabric, surgical, bullshit ones.

@TheSunIsStillShining

People talk of a third wave but I just get It? Either the vaccine works or it doesn’t?

Yes, they work, but not 100%. As long as you have around min. 20% of the population unvaccinated (u18) they will catch it, spread it, incubate mutations, etc....

There are countries in the world where even small children are totally fine with masks and kids/adults can wear proper ones and properly. It seem that the british kids are idiots then.... or at least justifying their stupid behaviour and making excuses for them suggests that not many ppl believe they would be capable of such a simple task.

Other Countries teach Communism 🤣 Just cos other Countries do it, doesn't mean we should!

@noblegiraffe

Seemingly covid doesn't make kids ill either.

That’s not why we had masks in classrooms. Nor to protect teachers. But because a pool of unmitigated covid infection swilling in the community leaks.

Ahh cool. So now the vulnerable are vaccinated and rates are low you'll be all for getting shot of masks!

@noblegiraffe

My daughter is in a bubble. No extra curriculum stuff happening. Vertical forms cancelled. Seating plans. None of that happening in your school?

But she is not staying 2m away from people, no? Which is what people usually mean when they refer to social distancing.

Social distancing includes being restricted by class or bubble, not being with other year groups, eating lunch in the rain etc. Generally why it's called "social" distancing, not just "distancing".

@cantkeepawayforever

But she is not staying 2m away from people, no? Which is what people usually mean when they refer to social distancing.

Exactly. I am not sure that a seating plan, in which every child is touching at least one other child, and which gives a maximum of 75 cm between pupils (and slightly less than that between the pupils at the front of the class and the teacher) is social DISTANCING...

Which is why they're isolating them. Another mitigation.

palacegirl77

As I said before, Covid levels are low primarily due to the lockdown. As lockdown eases, numbers of infections will rise. The risk of transmission is particularly high where large numbers of unvaccinated people meet in very close proximity, inside, over multiple hours - ie in schools.

Vaccination is not 100% effective. So the higher the number of cases, the greater the chance that someone whose vaccination has been ineffective will come into contact with someone who is infected.

Saying the cases are low now is not really all that relevant. We saw what can happen from a low base in schools from September to December, and almost none of the children in schools have been vaccinated so their is very little to stop infection once it gets into schools.