No more masks in classrooms - hurray!

[TeddingtonTrashbag]

Hurray!
I am a secondary teacher and just hope it really happens.

www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/05/06/exclusive-end-masks-classroom-boris-johnson-defies-unions/

I love when I post to say that wearing masks might help prevent cases like my ds, who has been in pain for a year thanks to long covid, only to be rebutted with classic arguments like “but facial acne!”

I mean yes. What a powerful argument. Potential temporary face acne is MUCH WORSE than a potential year of pain.

What was I thinking. 😂😂

I am really tempted to start a UK-wide petition to make shoes non-mandatory.
My son has ekczema and sometimes his feet really itches. It is cruel and anti-humane to make him wear a shoe all day long! zx

sorry, the zx was our cat chiming in

I gave birth this last year and masks didn’t have to be worn in the labour ward or postnatal ward (which was a relief.)

A lot of healthcare practitioners in this country still don't have access to proper face masks / PPE which is an outrage. But that's another discussion.

I could not of been happier to hear this last night! The masks are a complete waste of time because they are not worn properly anywhere! Kids will of been shoving them in their pockets with their phones pens change dropping them on the floor then putting them over their mouths all day. Do we even know the harm of having a germ ridden cloth over their faces all day! This whole thing as been blown completely out of proportion and the fact now we have a vaccine and all the vulnerable and more have received it none of us should be wearing them any longer! People talk of a third wave but I just get It? Either the vaccine works or it doesn’t? And yes it won’t work for everyone but that’s the same for everything having the flu jab does not guarantee you don’t die life has risk in every aspect of it!

People talk of a third wave but I just get It? Either the vaccine works or it doesn’t?

Yes, they work, but not 100%. As long as you have around min. 20% of the population unvaccinated (u18) they will catch it, spread it, incubate mutations, etc....

There are countries in the world where even small children are totally fine with masks and kids/adults can wear proper ones and properly. It seem that the british kids are idiots then.... or at least justifying their stupid behaviour and making excuses for them suggests that not many ppl believe they would be capable of such a simple task.

@Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget - why are they not wearing and storing their masks properly. They get told how to wear them and to change them regularly with the dirty one being placed in a bag ready for washing. If they don’t do things properly, they are punished. Other countries have mandatory masks from kindergarten age without problems.

Swiss Cheese model is quite a good way of explaining why additional measures as well as vaccination are needed, because vaccination does not create 100% immunity.

Kids will of been shoving them in their pockets with their phones pens change dropping them on the floor then putting them over their mouths all day.

Why? Why do you, as a parent, teach them that this is acceptable?

"This whole thing as been blown completely out of proportion"

You what? FFS, 3.3 million deaths to date (not including all those they can't count), and that's with social distancing mitigations and now vaccinations.
What do you suppose the death rate might be now without those mitigations?

TheSunIsStillShining

You sound like you need to go and hide under your bed and never come out because the virus will always be there will always mutate just as viruses always have and always will but for some of us we are ready to get back to our lives! Our kids have had their education ruined been made to miss activities not see friends sit alone on laptops all day to go back be made to be tested twice weekly and wear masks ALL day! They have done their bit to protect the elderly now I think it would be selfish of any adult to deny them the chance to get back to complete normal and that does not include wearing a mask to cover their face!

"Our kids have had their education ruined"

No. They have not, and you are doing your child a great disservice if you tell them that they have.

And you sound very, very immature and silly.

@Youneverknowwhatyourgonnaget
I'm being realistic. Once we are vaccinated there is no reason not to live life.
But pls. explain to me why wearing masks to protect those who have not been vaccinated is a crime against children? I'm not saying don't do x,y,z. All I'm arguing for is to do them safely!
I don't want to hide under anything. I want grown up people to act as respectful and responsible parts of society. Not as entitled islands who have a right to ruin other's health...

I am so angry at this "protect the elderly" stupidity. As if there would be no covid under 65.... and we all know that that is not true.

I generally find that the number of exclamation marks in an piece of writing is in inverse proportion to the amount of rational thinking to be found in it.

Children haven’t had their lives ruined - they have had an interruption to education, activities and socialising.

Your comments are ridiculous and stupid

Our kids have had their education ruined been made to miss activities not see friends sit alone on laptops all day to go back be made to be tested twice weekly and wear masks ALL day!
Ruined???? Really?
If their education has been ruined, presumably you're pleased to have them back in school with the very few mitigations that seem to have alleviated the problem of bubbles closing.

My children are teens. Do you honestly think they are changing them regularly and storing them properly while they are at school all day? I can provide clean mask daily but I can guarantee they are touching them putting them in their pockets and whatever else! Since lockdown I have had many issues with my daughters mental health to which during the last lockdown I found out she has been self harming so forgive me if I want my daughters life back now their is a vaccine and the people at risk have received it!

I should have thought you would therefore want the best chance of your daughter remaining in school with no interruptions. Wearing masks will help to minimise the risks of further isolations.

The problem is that from September to December, rates in secondary school children went up 50 fold, way above increases in other parts of the community.

When secondary school children went back in March, the increase in covid rates was relatively low, lower even than primary school children, who are not so susceptible.

So it would appear that the increase in mitigations, with masks and testing, had a significant effect.

Presumably this is part of the reason that scientific opinion was in favour of masks being retained.

I'd like schools to be as free of covid as possible and to be able to stay open effectively, myself.

Storing the masks isn't a problem at the moment, as you are meant to store them on your face. I would recommend switching to a new one after lunch as they will get warm/dampish. Storing was more of an issue when they were worn only in the corridors.

@noblegiraffe

Anyway, the point is (as well you know) they're not hospital grade masks.

So? I’ve been in plenty of medical situations recently including hospital where medical practitioners were not in hospital grade masks.

Oh that's ok then. As long as no-one has the medical grade masks that's alright.

@SomeKindOfFloppyWeirdo

I love when I post to say that wearing masks might help prevent cases like my ds, who has been in pain for a year thanks to long covid, only to be rebutted with classic arguments like “but facial acne!”

I mean yes. What a powerful argument. Potential temporary face acne is MUCH WORSE than a potential year of pain.

What was I thinking. 😂😂

Yes that's right, pick up one point of what I wrote and misquote it. Well played.

Oh that's ok then. As long as no-one has the medical grade masks that's alright.

No, it’s your implied suggestion that anything other than a medical grade mask is useless.

Why, by the way, do you keep ignoring the advice from the government’s scientific advisers saying it’s important to keep masks in schools? You’ve yet to pass comment on it yet reply to everything else.

It’s really baffling.