Are you still sticking to ALL of the rules?

[CallTheSheriff]

Our family has followed all rules to date but with two weeks left until social contact restrictions are lifted I see more and more people using a ‘common sense’ approach for their own risk.

My DC go to school (primary), attend swimming lessons, attend dance classes and indoor football classes but we decline the offer of play dates with other DC in their class.

DH and I have not mixed indoors with any other adult since last March. We both WFH and are both partially vaccinated. We do not attend gyms etc as we didn’t pre covid anyway.

Our friends and family think we are being OTT, especially in not allowing DC to visit others after school but allowing them to attend classes.

It made me wonder how others are doing it?

@LucilleTheVampireBat

Of course a family with a disabled child who is vulnerable to dying from Covid, is far more important in this context

This is such absolute bullshit. Nobody gave one single solitary shit about the disabled child in my family before covid. Nobody actually does now, they just fear for themselves and use disabled and vulnerable people as a shield. Once this is all over, the disabled and vulnerable will be forgotten about as they always have been and you won't be posting virtue signalling bollocks like this ^^.

Absolutely!

@TheKeatingFive

What if we all too the same view and ignored the rules and did whatever we wanted? How many deaths would there have been through the crisis? What state would the country be in?

Perhaps the onus should be on the government to utilise better techniques to deal with the crisis rather than keeping vulnerable people from their close family for months at a time.

Like what?

*The risk is one of these individual has asymptotic Covid (you can still catch it and pass it on despite having the vaccine) they then sit inside with another family and pass it to them. Who then send their kids to school and the Covid is passed to someone who hasn't been vaccinated and they die. That's not tricky to understand surely?

And yes that worn magically be different after the 17th May but we all have to do our best to prevent it and the best way we have to do that is to not break the rules.*

I hate to break it to you but this is going to be a risk forever. So what. We still need to get on with our lives, this rubbish existence is quite rightly on the way out. You’ll need to get your head round that people will still always catch and die from Covid, but as long as the numbers are low, restrictions to prevent it are disproportionate.

@TheKeatingFive

It is high time people start acknowledging the very significant impact lockdown has had on the population.

I’m seeing marriages break down, people back on MH medication after years off. Breakdowns involving hospitalisation. Eating disorders. People losing family homes because their businesses can’t function. People dying having spent the last year mostly estranged from loved ones. It goes on and on.

And we have posters on here with the audacity to call people selfish and pathetic because they’re finally calling a halt? At a point where the vulnerable are all vaccinated. I think we’ll all think hard before making these kinds of sacrifices again, if this is the thanks being given.

Making individuals responsible for the public health of the nation is bizarre. Did we judge people previously for asymptomatically passing on flu? Yet that has caused many deaths too.

Totally agree!

The whole judging thing is just so odd. It's like people have forgotten that there are other concerns than covid but if you dare to voice these concerns and deal with them by seeing others etc then you are selfish. It's strange!

I can (and in fact am going to this week) see my mum in a coffee shop (inside) with a bunch of random strangers floating about, but cannot see her in her house just the two of us. I've not seen my mum in over a year due to the fact that she is full time carer for my aunt who is extremely clinically vulnerable and also due to the fact we don't live in the same local authority area and visits to relatives were not considered essential travel so were not allowed to go (in Scotland) for a huge chunk of the last year. Yet it's still considered too risky for me to be in her house but not risky to be in a coffee shop....

@TheKeatingFive

when the reality is it's actually only essential that people don't break the rules for the sake of the posters with vulnerable children and families, like the poster you have been talking to.

Why do only Covid related vulnerabilities count here? Why are the needs of a new mum, struggling with isolation and depression not important?

Why would that poster override what she needs to keep herself healthy and sane for the sake of people she doesn’t know?

This!!

It's quite interesting to see the word "selfish" be used to describe someone breaking lockdown rules but nothing being said in this scenario. It's also interesting to see the "weak"argument used too, which suggests to me these posters see anyone suffering with any mental health issue in that way. A distinct lack of empathy being shown. It's a sad reflection of society.

Live has a lot more complications, some of which can have devastating effects, than just covid. But sadly it's all some care about.

@yomommasmomma

And you can all reply whatever you have to, to make yourselves feel better and to try and justify yourselves, but the reality is you only care about what makes you happy or you are weak, or both of course!

Rather be your definition of “selfish” or “weak” than a nasty, judgemental person with no compassion for others.

Just be grateful you’re resilient enough and you’ve been able to cope well enough with this past year to survive. There but for the grace of whatever you believe in and all.

@yomommasmomma

And you can all reply whatever you have to, to make yourselves feel better and to try and justify yourselves, but the reality is you only care about what makes you happy or you are weak, or both of course!

I don't need to make myself feel better, I feel fine thanks. Don't need to justify myself to the likes of you either, I don't care about your opinion.

Apart from lift shares for school runs, yes we’re still following the rules.
All of us do lft’s twice a week and I’m fully vaccinated (I’m the one driving the kids).

@TheKeatingFive

You don't give the impression of having any understanding that there is more than one sort of vulnerable.

I find the 'only Covid counts' mentality absolutely bizarre. Understandable perhaps back last March. But now? There are so many other sources of suffering in the world and lockdown has exacerbated so much of them. How can anyone remain so blind to this?

Agreed.

We are heading for a mammoth mental health crisis, made worse by lockdown, yet all we hear is covid.

Mammoth physical health crisis too. I dread to think how many too-late or missed cancer diagnoses there must have been, for example.

Yes I'm sticking to rules. I only live 8 minutes from my parents and still not seen them indoors (for those saying the only ones that have stuck to rules live miles away from family).

Some posts are putting me in mind of this article. www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/liberals-covid-19-science-denial-lockdown/618780/

And very nice that lovely po-faced people who would normally be all about mental health awareness and Believing In Science apparently think mental illnesses make you weak - masks really beginning to slip!

No I am not!

None whatsoever
Other than those thrust on me (face masks)

@rainbowandglitter

Yes I'm sticking to rules. I only live 8 minutes from my parents and still not seen them indoors (for those saying the only ones that have stuck to rules live miles away from family).

Even now that presumably They are one or likely twice vaccinated now? And you too?

@Egghead81 - what's it to do with you what @rainbowandglitter does?

[quote luckylavender]**@Egghead81* - what's it to do with you what @rainbowandglitter* does? [/quote]

@stevalnamechanger

I don't know anyone following the rules in London. Yes masks in London but trips to visit friend and family / dinner parties seem common place now for most of the people I know .

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That’s great to hear Much better for people to make their own risk assessments

TBH I’ve always broken them a little bit. But I’ve balanced my own mental health with the risk of Covid. Having a lockdown baby meant at some points I needed support and the risk was worth taking.
Since 29 March when lockdown ended I’ve been acting as normal. Visiting friends, hugging etc. The vulnerable are vaccinated, life has to get back to normal now.
Some people just love the rules and have gleefully scolded people when they’ve broken them. It’s those people who will find it very hard to go back to normal once this is over. I have a SIL who has followed the rules to a tee. Hasn’t hugged anyone or been nearer than 2m to anyone in 15 months now. She’s got severe mental health issues and has already said she will be continuing “the rules” even after 21 June. It’s madness.

@TuesdayRuby

TBH I’ve always broken them a little bit. But I’ve balanced my own mental health with the risk of Covid. Having a lockdown baby meant at some points I needed support and the risk was worth taking. Since 29 March when lockdown ended I’ve been acting as normal. Visiting friends, hugging etc. The vulnerable are vaccinated, life has to get back to normal now. Some people just love the rules and have gleefully scolded people when they’ve broken them. It’s those people who will find it very hard to go back to normal once this is over. I have a SIL who has followed the rules to a tee. Hasn’t hugged anyone or been nearer than 2m to anyone in 15 months now. She’s got severe mental health issues and has already said she will be continuing “the rules” even after 21 June. It’s madness.

Isn’t it just. I’m so glad I did my own risk assessments and have seen family and friends throughout and I’m pleased I’ve got through this with my mental health intact

I feel very sorry for those thatve been tipped over the edge. It’s a terrible place to be.
That was me decades ago and I swore that I was never going back there again.

Now we just need the weather to warm up and we can all go full tilt at summer
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Now we just need the weather to warm up and we can all go full tilt at summer

Yes! I'm planning on having Junemas! A big Christmas style dinner with all the family, both sides if we can figure out how to fit everyone in. Really looking forward to it.

I've always broken them, started off with little things like going to the shop just for wine, going out more than once a day, longer than an hour. Then it escalated to meeting my friend with their kids and my kids when we were supposed to be seeing people 1:1. After that I just allowed people inside and went to their house too. At one point there were 7 of us in the house/garden when there should have only been 6. We've also had illegal haircuts twice.

That's as extreme as it gets, no mass raves and a lot less contact than normal when I would be mingling with all sorts of people at the gym, in a pub at work etc.

I struggled and I don't care if that makes me weak, I am not resilient when it comes to isolation. Other people are better than me in that respect and that's fine but I probably would have lost the plot if I wasn't seeing my friends and family semi regularly.

Might be a little bit mad

No it doesn’t make you weak. It makes you selfish. Because you think your needs are more important than anyone else’s. We ALL struggled. Breaking the law has no excuse.

@Mumbot345635

Might be a little bit mad

No it doesn’t make you weak. It makes you selfish. Because you think your needs are more important than anyone else’s. We ALL struggled. Breaking the law has no excuse.

Do you not get that this isn’t working? You’ve got less than six weeks left. Don’t you know you’re only making it harder for yourself?