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Are you still sticking to ALL of the rules?

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CallTheSheriff · 03/05/2021 21:33

Our family has followed all rules to date but with two weeks left until social contact restrictions are lifted I see more and more people using a ‘common sense’ approach for their own risk.

My DC go to school (primary), attend swimming lessons, attend dance classes and indoor football classes but we decline the offer of play dates with other DC in their class.

DH and I have not mixed indoors with any other adult since last March. We both WFH and are both partially vaccinated. We do not attend gyms etc as we didn’t pre covid anyway.

Our friends and family think we are being OTT, especially in not allowing DC to visit others after school but allowing them to attend classes.

It made me wonder how others are doing it?

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RaspberryCoulis · 05/05/2021 09:24

I agree, @RedcurrantPuff. People who have said for the start they are making sacrifices for the greater good, or for society as a whole, or to protect some random granny at the other end of the country are not being honest with themselves.

We ALL put our own nearest and dearest above people we don't know. It's human nature to do so. That doesn't mean that you don't give a shit about anyone else, it just means you put your own family first. All the stuff about not leaving the house, not going to the supermarket, wiping groceries - it's not about protecting everyone, it's about protecting you and yours.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 05/05/2021 09:26

LFTs were done, masks were worn.

To ride in a car?

We've been riding round for months, giving lifts, etc for months, no masks. Who does a test just for that?

LST · 05/05/2021 09:26

@yomommasmomma

All those saying they are happy to put others at risk are proving my point that they are only interested in themselves. Selfishness is such a problem in our society now.
Yep. You're just repeating yourself duck. Everyone is agreeing with you
RedcurrantPuff · 05/05/2021 09:27

@RaspberryCoulis

I agree, *@RedcurrantPuff*. People who have said for the start they are making sacrifices for the greater good, or for society as a whole, or to protect some random granny at the other end of the country are not being honest with themselves.

We ALL put our own nearest and dearest above people we don't know. It's human nature to do so. That doesn't mean that you don't give a shit about anyone else, it just means you put your own family first. All the stuff about not leaving the house, not going to the supermarket, wiping groceries - it's not about protecting everyone, it's about protecting you and yours.

Exactly. I actually feel sorry for the PP shouting at everyone for being selfish and weak. It’s clearly a front for the fact she’s terrified about life going back to some kind of normality and is lashing out at others.
GintyMcGinty · 05/05/2021 09:27

And you can all reply whatever you have to, to make yourselves feel better and to try and justify yourselves, but the reality is you only care about what makes you happy or you are weak, or both of course!

I don't need to justify myself. I am quite comfortable and happy in my decisions.

RedcurrantPuff · 05/05/2021 09:28

@osbertthesyrianhamster

LFTs were done, masks were worn.

To ride in a car?

We've been riding round for months, giving lifts, etc for months, no masks. Who does a test just for that?

I was going out as well and was also seeing my parents, that’s why I did the LFT.
yomommasmomma · 05/05/2021 09:29

@TheKeatingFive

There’s a whole cohort of people now getting upset because throwing around the word ‘selfish’ isn’t working any more.
What do you mean by it's not "working"? I am saying it as a statement of fact. Those who have ignored the rules which are designed to benefit and protect society as a whole, because they are more concerned about making themselves happy (and can't possibly go a moment longer without having their mates round for a drink!!) have been behaving in a selfish manner.
RedcurrantPuff · 05/05/2021 09:31

Ok then @yomommasmomma

No-one cares what you think. In fact if you disapprove so much the better.

TheKeatingFive · 05/05/2021 09:32

because they are more concerned about making themselves happy (and can't possibly go a moment longer without having their mates round for a drink!!)

Because that’s all it’s about. Hmm

All you care about is keeping you and yours ‘safe’ from Covid. If people lose jobs, health, marriages, precious last time with their parents, to facilitate you and your needs, you couldn’t give a shiny shit clearly. Admit it.

Worldgonecrazy · 05/05/2021 09:39

The situation has allowed a lot of virtue signalling and smugness. It has allowed people whose lives were mundane and drab to feel like heroes and that they are sacrificing for ‘the greater good’. Of course there is a sector of society that wants the rules to continue long past requirements because the situation allows them an iota of self worth.

Let’s face it, when the previous highlight of your week was catching up on Eastenders , feeling self important and that you are able to (finally) look down on other people, it’s a hard thing to let go of. Hard to believe it, but there are some people who finally feel that they have worth.

Slowdownandsee · 05/05/2021 09:41

Raspberrycoulis all the adults in my household currently (myself Dh and x1 grandparent that had lived with us a long time) are part or wholly vaccinated) yet two out of these three adults also have covid despite vaccines..(brought home to us from kids school) .. I agree your situation you described is low risk but the vaccines just reduce symptoms (ideally after both doses) and don’t stop you getting it altogether, my local area also had next to zero cases until the outbreak from school but that wouldn’t have happened if a parent had either not travelled or perhaps followed rules better with quarantine or who knows maybe they did and the virus is just doing it’s thing, it will despite guidelines , the point is that the more people that follow them properly the less people will suffer like my family is now, I would love to have seen my elderly relative last week before they have a risky operation this week but I have to stay at home and isolate and so protect others, it’s hard enough doing that without hearing about people who choose not to even attempt it. I’m very fit only 41 and part vaccinated and still poorly, I have a good understanding or risk, I will continue to follow guidelines, I bet all the people on here saying sod the rules wouldn’t thank me for leaving the house tmrw and coughing all over my shopping trolley or sending my virulent child into their child’s classroom or if I sneezed as their older relative passed me in the cafe etc etc

Slowdownandsee · 05/05/2021 09:44

Worldgonecrazy I don’t feel self important, I’m just doing the right thing...... or I could say sod it and not care and come cough and sneeze my way round the local supermarket, would that sit better with you?

DeadButDelicious · 05/05/2021 09:45

you are just not strong enough to manage without breaking the rules

I'm not. I'm not resilient enough. And I'm not ashamed of that. I have to look out for my mental health. If that means seeing my parents before I'm 'allowed' too then so be it. And if that makes me weak than that's fine too. There is nothing wrong with knowing your limits and admitting when you have had as much as you can take.

yomommasmomma · 05/05/2021 09:46

@DeadButDelicious

you are just not strong enough to manage without breaking the rules

I'm not. I'm not resilient enough. And I'm not ashamed of that. I have to look out for my mental health. If that means seeing my parents before I'm 'allowed' too then so be it. And if that makes me weak than that's fine too. There is nothing wrong with knowing your limits and admitting when you have had as much as you can take.

But you can see them and have been able to for the majority of the time. You just can't see them inside yet, is meeting outside not enough to support your mental health? I am sorry you have found it a struggle.
yomommasmomma · 05/05/2021 09:48

@RedcurrantPuff

Ok then *@yomommasmomma*

No-one cares what you think. In fact if you disapprove so much the better.

If believing that makes you feel better about your own choices, you go for it Smile
LST · 05/05/2021 09:49

No one is asking for approval or making ourselves feel better

osbertthesyrianhamster · 05/05/2021 09:50

you are just not strong enough to manage without breaking the rules

Most just don't give a shit.

PatrickBatemann · 05/05/2021 09:52

If believing that makes you feel better about your own choices, you go for it

You're assuming anyone actually feels bad about their choices? I don't.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 05/05/2021 09:52

But you can see them and have been able to for the majority of the time. You just can't see them inside yet, is meeting outside not enough to support your mental health? I am sorry you have found it a struggle.

Sure you can! You open the door and they come on in Grin. It's nice and warm inside, some people here in the north and in Scotland, it's miserable outside. Fuck that.

CallTheSheriff · 05/05/2021 09:52

@Slowdownandsee sorry to hear you’ve been so unwell. I do have to say though, you can’t guarantee you’ve caught it from someone not following the rules.

One of my DC caught covid from school back in January; they were in with the key worker kids. There’s every chance you could have caught it from kids who’s parents are having to go to work . It makes me feel very uneasy that when you catch covid , it’s assumed you’ve broken the rules.

I do get it though, the worry about it does make you wonder who has passed it on, what have they been doing etc but it’s just not rational. It’s a virus, it can be anywhere.

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osbertthesyrianhamster · 05/05/2021 09:52

@PatrickBatemann

If believing that makes you feel better about your own choices, you go for it

You're assuming anyone actually feels bad about their choices? I don't.

I don't, either.
DeadButDelicious · 05/05/2021 09:52

But you can see them and have been able to for the majority of the time. You just can't see them inside yet, is meeting outside not enough to support your mental health? I am sorry you have found it a struggle.

No it's not. It's not enough. I have done it for as long as I possibly could but between the third lockdown, winter and serious injury I need actual support not a chat in the garden.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 05/05/2021 09:55

@DeadButDelicious

But you can see them and have been able to for the majority of the time. You just can't see them inside yet, is meeting outside not enough to support your mental health? I am sorry you have found it a struggle.

No it's not. It's not enough. I have done it for as long as I possibly could but between the third lockdown, winter and serious injury I need actual support not a chat in the garden.

And some people don't have a garden. But 'the government says'. Yeah, who trusts them? Run by a man who left hospital from Covid to go shack up with his pregnant mistress, Cummings, the Scottish health secretary who swanned off to her holiday house, etc etc.
ExConstance · 05/05/2021 09:55

We have our sons to visit, there is a perfectly legal excuse we could use but it would be very technical in its application. We do not do LFT tests but I get a PCR at work every week. We have now both had two vaccinations, with the second some time ago, so I think it is now mainly up to us.

HazeyJaneII · 05/05/2021 09:56

@Worldgonecrazy

The situation has allowed a lot of virtue signalling and smugness. It has allowed people whose lives were mundane and drab to feel like heroes and that they are sacrificing for ‘the greater good’. Of course there is a sector of society that wants the rules to continue long past requirements because the situation allows them an iota of self worth.

Let’s face it, when the previous highlight of your week was catching up on Eastenders , feeling self important and that you are able to (finally) look down on other people, it’s a hard thing to let go of. Hard to believe it, but there are some people who finally feel that they have worth.

Do you really think that everyone who has tried to follow guidelines and rules had mundane and drab Iives and have got some sort of thrill out of this shithole of a year? Fuck me.
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