UK vaccination thread started 1st May 2021

[Bordois]

As of Friday 30th April

34.3m first jabs
14.9m second jabs

have been given in the UK. This means that 65% of all adults have some level of protection and 28% are fully vaccinated.

Additionally evidence is currently suggesting that the vaccines are effective against the Brazilian and Indian variants 🥳

Over 75% of adults have had one jab and over 50% have had two jabs! Just phenomenal!!!

Now let’s get to 80% and 60% - and complete two more lines on the grid!

Latest hospital figures. Only 3.7% of patients in hospital with covid have had both doses

Without wanting to be negative, I thought two doses were meant to prevent 100% of hospitalizations. I suppose 96.3% is pretty close! Thoughts?

Those 3.7% could be in hospital for other reasons and have a positive test while there.
Covid hospital stats don't actually differentiate between people needing hospital treatment for Covid and those having treatment for something else but also having mild Covid.

The 100% protection against hospitalisation was from the clinical trials, which by their very nature excluded certain sorts of people, e.g. the very frail and those with compromised immune systems.

It’s unsurprising that when the vaccines are administered to millions, including (especially) the very frail, that a small proportion will not mount a sufficiently robust immune response to prevent severe disease.

Also, some of them could be only a few days after the second jab, not long enough for it to reach full effectiveness.

Thanks Puzzled, that makes sense. 96.3% is still outstanding!

@buttery81

Over 75% of adults have had one jab and over 50% have had two jabs! Just phenomenal!!!

love that number!!!

"It’s unsurprising that when the vaccines are administered to millions, including (especially) the very frail, that a small proportion will not mount a sufficiently robust immune response to prevent severe disease."

@PuzzledObserver, as a student nurse I had to have my rubella 3 times before it worked. I think occupational health were sick of checking my blood!

1st > 191,266
2nd > 377,641

568907 doses

39,949,694 (75,8%)
26,799,944(50.9%)

for anyone in the know is it normal protocol to wipe the infection site before jabbing?

just had my first vaccination in a very brief fashion and I did ask the vaccinator if she needed to wipe my arm with an alcohol swab and she said, no and I felt silly for asking

my now my paranoia is kicking in that it needed to be done and I'll get some terrible infection!

no they didn't for me

@lunar1 I had hep B vaccinations for a volunteer role, and because I was over 40 I had to have a blood test to confirm it had “taken”, which is had.

With mass rubella vaccinations, now MMR, they don’t bother with the check. I guess that’s the difference between a general population rollout, and vaccinating someone who is likely to encounter the disease and in a position to pass it on to vulnerable others.

They’re not routinely testing HCP’s for Covid antibodies post vaccination though, are they? Or are they?

Pfizer jab approved for teenagers:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57358446

@leafyygreens

for anyone in the know is it normal protocol to wipe the infection site before jabbing?

just had my first vaccination in a very brief fashion and I did ask the vaccinator if she needed to wipe my arm with an alcohol swab and she said, no and I felt silly for asking

my now my paranoia is kicking in that it needed to be done and I'll get some terrible infection!

Didn't for me, nor anyone I have just asked. The needle will have been sterile, the injection site very unlikely indeed to harbour any bacteria that the rest of you including eyes and nose would not be as well.

I don't think I've ever had a cleansing swab before an injection, nor before having blood taken for the INR tests I have regularly.

research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle/10072/55002/SpinksPUB12.PDF?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

found no statistically significant difference between a swab and no swab...

And according to clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03131843

"At present, based on the available evidence base, the World Health Organization (WHO) and the Centre for Disease Control (CDC) do not recommend the use of alcohol swabs before vaccine injections. As a result, immunizers in many countries around the world currently do not cleanse the skin with alcohol prior to vaccination."

Number of doses still to go until every adult in the UK is vaccinated:

1st: 12,754,387
2nd: 25,904,138

Total: 38,658,525

If we’re doing an average of 500,000 jabs a day, that means every single adult in the UK will be fully vaccinated in 77 days time - 20th August 2021!

I think they cleaned the area for both my vaccines , but as others have said I’d not be worried about it

In my neck of the woods, gp invitations are going out to lower 20s. My 22 year old neighbour got a text inviting her to go hub and had her first last week. They are doing second dose mop ups for refuses and first jabs . Northumberland 🥳

DD's Partner had his first jab yesterday in Salford, and he's 19 with no underlying issues.

Also, I’ve been so fixated on percentages recently that I didn’t notice another major milestone - we will officially hit 40 million 1st doses today!!

Seems to be stuck at over 30 for a bit - my 20 year old DD at uni desperately wants a jab

@buttery81

Latest hospital figures. Only 3.7% of patients in hospital with covid have had both doses

Without wanting to be negative, I thought two doses were meant to prevent 100% of hospitalizations. I suppose 96.3% is pretty close! Thoughts?

On the basis that the groups that have been double-vaccinated would have accounted for 95%+ of hospitalisations prior to vaccination, 3.7% is an extremely low percentage.

For instance, very roughly (and I appreciate this is complicated by the fact that not everyone in vulnerable groups is fully vaccinated) if 100 people were in hospital, 96 would be from less vulnerable groups who hadn't been fully vaccinated (rounding the 3.8%). In an unvaccinated world, you could expect the 96 to form 5% or so of the patients, with the remaining 95%, accounting for 1,920 patients from vulnerable groups.

That's 1,920 versus just 4, or 99.8% reduction!

That’s fantastic @Hamilbamil, thank you!

Anyone else really excited about hitting that 40 million mark today?

@AlmondFlat @AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

thank you for the reassuring informative posts :)

471,939 for England yesterday

150,337 1st doses, 321,602 2nd doses

(other nations aren't reporting til a later time)

40 MILLION!!!!