Page 10 | Has anybody managed to get Pfizer instead of astra zeneca?

Scrfgkesjwjrf · 30/04/2021 00:12

@Totalbeach

What kind of person tells a grieving, bereaved sibling to 'get a grip' *@Scrfgkesjwjrf* Honestly - why are you so invested in other people getting vaccinated with AZ that you'd do that. It's disturbing.

Only idiots refuse to listen to the science.

stackthecats · 30/04/2021 00:14

Following this with interest as I've got my first jab within the next couple of days, but I'm currently TTC and in the 2WW. A test is unlikely to show anything yet. Has anyone else been in the same position? What should I do? Should I rebook when I know? All the appointments have gone off the system but it didn't occur to me when I booked.

nerdsville · 30/04/2021 00:16

Ten pages of comments and no-one has mentioned the fact that @Lockheart fucking nailed this whole thread on page 1 with one of the best comments I have ever read on Mumsnet:

the NHS doesn't have the ability to take everyone's orders like you're a particularly irritating hen do at Las Iguanas.

I'm still giggling

Viviennemary · 30/04/2021 00:16

Either take the AZ or do without.

TruelyWonder · 30/04/2021 00:18

@Totalbeach

Nice moral compass you have. Seriously look in the mirror and stop advising rubbish.

Really couldn't care less what you think @TruelyWonder I think the OP is entitled to choose what she puts in her body by any means possible. If the government would be open with the data about AZ I'd feel more like the OP has to be open about why she needs the vaccine but we don't live in a fair or transparent country.

The government are reporting and publishing clot data every week for AZ. You really don't know what you are talking about do you!

Has anybody managed to get Pfizer instead of astra zeneca?

MrsIsobelCrawley · 30/04/2021 00:20

Across the world, from Australia to Canada, the medical experts have limited the use of AstraZeneca to over 50s.

Fools on Mumsnet will demand you to take AstraZeneca.

Who to believe?

MarshaBradyo · 30/04/2021 00:21

@MrsIsobelCrawley

Across the world, from Australia to Canada, the medical experts have limited the use of AstraZeneca to over 50s.

Fools on Mumsnet will demand you to take AstraZeneca.

Who to believe?

Yeh we decide.

Not MRHA and other regulatory bodies.

But then again enough on mn look to tabloids first

ViciousJackdaw · 30/04/2021 00:21

@Totalbeach

do you have the data to back that up , not one single case after any other jab ?

Yep, and it's easily available so just look for it @worriedatthemoment

Blood clots, you say? After other vaccines? Yes, you are spot on, the information is easily available. Here's an interesting article from the BMJ: www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1046

Here's another article, this time about an Oxford University study:
www.marketwatch.com/story/blood-clots-as-prevalent-with-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccine-as-with-astrazenecas-report-2021-04-15

Want some more? Here you go:
www.skynews.com.au/details/_6249573295001

Totalbeach · 30/04/2021 00:22

Oh brilliant, @TruelyWonder then perhaps you can find the data for me about how many people under 50 (the age AZ is banned in most other countries) have had the AZ jab in the UK, how many of them have had 2 jabs, and any co-morbidities of the people who have had clots? Including details of the ages and conditions of those who had clots with the second jab? Perhaps the number of days after vaccination that the jab 2 clot cases got their symptoms? Yeah, didn't think so.

Cloudyview · 30/04/2021 00:24

@Crovine

If so, please share strategies.

I have a number of issues including sibling medical history that have led me to not want astra zeneca. None of these are on the list of official reasons to avoid it. But I don't want it. I went to my vaccination appointment today and explained this. They said I could have astra zeneca and that it was safe. They said they would not offer Pfizer (which people six feet away were having) because all the doses were allocated. I was advised to get a letter from my GP. However it was my GP who told me to go to the appointment and discuss at the centre. So I left without being vaccinated.

It seems like an impasse.

Has anybody managed to find a way through this?

I’ve had the Astra Zeneca vaccine, because that was what I was offered, and I haven’t had any problems. I was just grateful to be offered it. Please don’t do as a previous poster said and keep booking and turning down. That’s depriving others of the chance to get the vaccine and extremely selfish. Also, what makes you so special, that you think you have a right to demand which vaccine you want?

Either take the Astra Zeneca, or go to the back of the queue. You might get the Pfizer if there are any left when the rest of the population have had theirs!

TruelyWonder · 30/04/2021 00:24

@stackthecats

Following this with interest as I've got my first jab within the next couple of days, but I'm currently TTC and in the 2WW. A test is unlikely to show anything yet. Has anyone else been in the same position? What should I do? Should I rebook when I know? All the appointments have gone off the system but it didn't occur to me when I booked.

Not in your position but looking at current advise regarding pregnancy I would wait until you know. So cancel and rebook. That or seek advice from your own GP

Fingers crossed you get a positive pregnancy test ❤

Scrfgkesjwjrf · 30/04/2021 00:26

@MrsIsobelCrawley

Across the world, from Australia to Canada, the medical experts have limited the use of AstraZeneca to over 50s.

Fools on Mumsnet will demand you to take AstraZeneca.

Who to believe?

Fgs it is risk based, not a goddamn conspiracy! Why is that so hard to understand? OP will be at higher risk of dying of covid in the UK that from the vaccine. Whether she chooses to heed that information is her choice.

Totalbeach · 30/04/2021 00:27

Blood clots, you say? After other vaccines? Yes, you are spot on, the information is easily available. Here's an interesting article from the BMJ:
www.bmj.com/content/373/bmj.n1046

Here's another article, this time about an Oxford University study:
www.marketwatch.com/story/blood-clots-as-prevalent-with-pfizer-and-moderna-vaccine-as-with-astrazenecas-report-2021-04-15

Want some more? Here you go:
www.skynews.com.au/details/_6249573295001

Good lord - when someone uses a Sky news article about a man in Australia who has a blood clot that may or may not be related to another vaccine, you know they're really scraping the barrel.

The J&J one is very similar to the AZ so unsurprising that it also causes clots. That's not a reason not to get Pfizer.

And let's not even talk about the article in the extremely reputable health source, the - er - random stock market website. Actually yes let's talk about it - and about how it isn't even talking about the same condition that the AZ vaccine is causing, just brain blood clots, not the combination of brain blood clots with low platelets - which makes them harder to treat. And which Pfizer is not in any way linked to.

FrankensteinIsTheMonster · 30/04/2021 00:28

I'm shocked they didn't realise how special you are

Jeez.

In order to vaccinate huge numbers of people, some people are going to have to have the generally less preferred vaccine that we've got more of. There just isn't the flexibility in a mass programme to take account of your individual preferences. FFS, there wasn't even the flexibility for my relative to have her second jab at ten and a half weeks rather than 11–12 weeks, so instead she has to wait until several weeks after an important procedure she's been waiting for, meaning an extra month spent not fully vaccinated. (Tried GP, 119, local GP hub, CCG, and PALS, no success.)

ViciousJackdaw · 30/04/2021 00:29

Yes dearie, a blatant refusal to look evidence in the face always works.

Scrfgkesjwjrf · 30/04/2021 00:29

@Totalbeach

Oh brilliant, *@TruelyWonder* then perhaps you can find the data for me about how many people under 50 (the age AZ is banned in most other countries) have had the AZ jab in the UK, how many of them have had 2 jabs, and any co-morbidities of the people who have had clots? Including details of the ages and conditions of those who had clots with the second jab? Perhaps the number of days after vaccination that the jab 2 clot cases got their symptoms? Yeah, didn't think so.

Why so obsessed?

Totalbeach · 30/04/2021 00:30

@ViciousJackdaw

Yes dearie, a blatant refusal to look evidence in the face always works.

Haha don't worry I read your 'sources'. They showed no evidence of CVT with thrombocytopenia with the Pfizer jab. My fave though was the random article about the Australian man with as-yet undiagnosed condition. Fabulous 'evidence'.

Totalbeach · 30/04/2021 00:32

@Scrfgkesjwjrf Apparently this data is not being held back and is available. So I'm just wondering where it is.

Dita73 · 30/04/2021 00:32

When you get your jab,ask them if they have anything for you’re shitty attitude

Redsquirrel5 · 30/04/2021 00:33

My husband had Pfizer through our GP practice. He is 67 but has no health problems just given it. I am 64 had a NHS appointment have asthma on two inhalers, high BP and an erratic immune system I was given Astra Zeneca. My GP said take the NHS offered one as he didn’t know how long I would have to wait for the GP offered appointment which was about 8 mile away. I had to go 30 miles for the first one and 40 for the second one in June.

Luck of the drawer it seems!

DontBeRidiculous · 30/04/2021 00:34

Only idiots refuse to listen to the science.

Which is worse, "idiocy" or a complete lack of compassion?

When you get the chance, take your vaccine and be happy about it, but other people are allowed to have qualms and concerns.

TruelyWonder · 30/04/2021 00:37

@Totalbeach

Oh brilliant, *@TruelyWonder* then perhaps you can find the data for me about how many people under 50 (the age AZ is banned in most other countries) have had the AZ jab in the UK, how many of them have had 2 jabs, and any co-morbidities of the people who have had clots? Including details of the ages and conditions of those who had clots with the second jab? Perhaps the number of days after vaccination that the jab 2 clot cases got their symptoms? Yeah, didn't think so.

There is a whole other thread of rather odd people posting the data for clots??? Why do I need to supply that for you. Why they have made a thread of their own for clot daily information that is another discussion. To worry each other🤷‍♀️

5zeds · 30/04/2021 00:38

There are people who need the Pfizer and people who feel like having it. My dc needs it. The AstraZeneca isn’t an option. I can’t see why OP can’t wait to have the Pfizer if she wants to, but I think those that need it should get it first.

TruelyWonder · 30/04/2021 00:40

@MrsIsobelCrawley

Across the world, from Australia to Canada, the medical experts have limited the use of AstraZeneca to over 50s.

Fools on Mumsnet will demand you to take AstraZeneca.

Who to believe?

🤔 Good question

Ariannah · 30/04/2021 00:42

I spoke to my GP about whether I could have Pfizer. He said it’s not for you to decide which medicine you get prescribed - not just in this case but at any time. A medical professional decides what medicines you get prescribed. If they decide that in their professional opinion you should have Medicine A, then you will not be able to get Medicine B.

Currently Pfizer is in short supply so is only being prescribed for people who the GP has specifically said has to have it, either for medical reasons or as a 2nd dose. There are a few rare situations where someone else might strike lucky and get a spare Pfizer. But generally you will only be offered AZ at present unless your GP has decided otherwise. The problem is that you think you’re special and the rules don’t apply to you.