Servers at pub not wearing masks - is this ok?

[Catyness]

I've been to 2 pubs now since they've re-opened outside. I was surprised last night that the servers/waiters weren't wearing any type of face covering. They stood around 1m away to take the order then would be right at the table when delivering the drinks.

Is this allowed? Is this safe?

I did feel uncomfortable and won't be rushing back there I'm afraid.

Masks were introduced last July to help people like OP feel more confident in going out, confident, not on any sound scientific basis that they significantly impact transmission.

I fear that these people will never feel confident ever again, such has been the success of project fear

@hamstersarse wow, you actually believe that’s why masks were introduced?

Blimey.

OP , STFAH with your mask if you wish but the rest of us are happy to start enjoying a little bit of normal life again.

[quote Canyouexplainhowthatis]@hamstersarse wow, you actually believe that’s why masks were introduced?

Blimey.[/quote]
She's right. You don't like it because you've fully bought into the idea that these constantly touched and constantly reused bits of fabric are keeping you "safe". They aren't. It's theatre.

@LucilleTheVampireBat You’re both wrong.

@hamstersarse

Masks were introduced last July to help people like OP feel more confident in going out, confident, not on any sound scientific basis that they significantly impact transmission.

I fear that these people will never feel confident ever again, such has been the success of project fear

I know. As if wearing a hanky over your nose makes a difference 😂. If it worked we'd have developed them via evolution! But seeing as immunity is hotly disputed and we've decided that our entire knowledge of viruses is useless nothing surprises me anymore!

[quote Canyouexplainhowthatis]@LucilleTheVampireBat You’re both wrong.[/quote]
🤣

Mask wearing now is simply covid-theatre. They're just a visual reminder that we're still in a scary 'pandemic'. They (no longer) serve any useful purpose.

'Masks were introduced last July to help people like OP feel more confident in going out, confident, not on any sound scientific basis that they significantly impact transmission.'

Masks were introduced to help people feel more confident. Jesus.

@JaniieJones

'Masks were introduced last July to help people like OP feel more confident in going out, confident, not on any sound scientific basis that they significantly impact transmission.'

Masks were introduced to help people feel more confident. Jesus.

yep - the WHO themselves said that the main benefit of enforced mask-wearing for all is that makes those who want to wear a mask feel less self-conscious

'Mask wearing now is simply covid-theatre.'

Is 'covid theatre' the new thing with The Deniers? Has it replaced 'me civil liberties' and 'its a dictatorship I tell ya!'?

@JaniieJones

'Mask wearing now is simply covid-theatre.'

Is 'covid theatre' the new thing with The Deniers? Has it replaced 'me civil liberties' and 'its a dictatorship I tell ya!'?

Thinking that dirty, unwashed, reworn masks don't offer much protection and now, when rates are so low and most adults (including the vulnerable) have been vaccinated/have antibodies, they feel ever more surplus to requirements isn't the same as being a 'covid denier'. How ridiculous.

Fwiw I think masks were beneficial when covid was rife and may be again if we're ever in that situation with new, vaccine-evading variants. Now we are where we are, I'm not sure there's the same need for them - definitely in a couple of months when almost all adults will have been vaccinated, there won't be.

I'm not a covid denier. I've seen young, fit people die from covid. I'm CV and have been sick with worry at some points over the past year. Like most things in life, it's not black and white. One of the shittest things about this whole shitfest is the squawking on either 'side' - if you dare to question the rules, or vaccine safety, or efficacy of masks/drive three miles to walk the dog/don't wash your shopping you're a covid denying conspiracy theorist granny murderer while conversely if you're not regularly licking the postman/meeting with friends for clandestine parties/carting your whole extended family around Sainsbury's to do the weekly shop you're a bed wetting dementor. Can we stop with this utter bollocks now please?

'Thinking that dirty, unwashed, reworn masks don't offer much protection and now, when rates are so low and most adults (including the vulnerable) have been vaccinated/have antibodies, they feel ever more surplus to requirements isn't the same as being a 'covid denier'. '

I was referring to the silly catch phrase 'covid theatre' 🙄

You should have been washing your mask daily or at least wear a disposable one you know.

Of course there won't be the need for them at some point, I don't believe anyone has suggested they're a permanent fixture.

I was referring to the silly catch phrase 'covid theatre'

It depends on the context. Some of the "Covid related" measures are indeed "Covid theatre" since their effectiveness is either questionable (at best) or proven to be zero. Examples include:

• Constant/obsessive hand sanitising (instead of washing hands up to 10 times a day);
• Masks outdoors outside of large / loud events;
• "Deep cleaning" (especially outdoor surfaces);
• Temperature checks (some studies suggest that might be effective but in the real world 260,000 temperature checks in our offices failed to identify a single case of Covid).

The two most useful measures are probably:

• Social distancing
• Ventilation

Marginally useful measures are:

• Hand washing (up to 10 times a day)
• Masks indoors

'It depends on the context. Some of the "Covid related" measures are indeed "Covid theatre" since their effectiveness is either questionable (at best) or proven to be zero. Examples include'

Oh well say 'unnecessary in my expert opinion' then. Not as catchy I grant you but 'covid theatre' just sounds pompous and twatty.

@JaniieJones

'Thinking that dirty, unwashed, reworn masks don't offer much protection and now, when rates are so low and most adults (including the vulnerable) have been vaccinated/have antibodies, they feel ever more surplus to requirements isn't the same as being a 'covid denier'. '

I was referring to the silly catch phrase 'covid theatre' 🙄

You should have been washing your mask daily or at least wear a disposable one you know.

Of course there won't be the need for them at some point, I don't believe anyone has suggested they're a permanent fixture.

I'm exempt from wearing a mask but of course I know they should be washed regularly/not touched once put on/put on and removed with sanitised hands, and so on.

Most people don't do this, however. And one wonders what the benefits of filthy masks are, when so many people have antibodies and rates are so low. Wearing them in these conditions does seem like paying lip service and yes, a little like covid theatre.

@JaniieJones

'It depends on the context. Some of the "Covid related" measures are indeed "Covid theatre" since their effectiveness is either questionable (at best) or proven to be zero. Examples include'

Oh well say 'unnecessary in my expert opinion' then. Not as catchy I grant you but 'covid theatre' just sounds pompous and twatty.

Calling people covid deniers when they're clearly not sounds more than a little twatty, imo.

'I'm exempt from wearing a mask'

Oh I see. Well I wouldn't worry about it then if I were you

@JaniieJones

'I'm exempt from wearing a mask'

Oh I see. Well I wouldn't worry about it then if I were you

I'm not sure what you mean.

@JaniieJones

'Mask wearing now is simply covid-theatre.'

Is 'covid theatre' the new thing with The Deniers? Has it replaced 'me civil liberties' and 'its a dictatorship I tell ya!'?

What is a "denier"? It's just so boring and lazy to trot out the same tired old insult. If you can find a single post on this long thread that explicitly denies covid is a thing then please do so. Otherwise you're quite literally lieing to fit your own narrative of a "denier".

I think mask wearing does help - common sense says if I have a barrier in front of my face and you have a barrier in front of your face, any droplets with nasty viruses are going to find it more difficult to transmit between us. And I wash my masks regularly, after I've worn them once.

Hand-washing is pointless except to the extent that it washes away any nasty virus or bacteria.

I don't like sanitising as a routine thing because we should not be doing things to make bacteria more resistant to antibiotics.

And taking peoples' temperatures when they go into hairdressers is the ultimate covid theatre (although it's been interesting to find out what my "normal" temperature is).

If we want to stay healthy going forward I'd say continue to wear masks in healthcare settings and crowded indoor spaces like commuter trains, and wash your hands more often with soap and water.

Oh and open the windows on trains and buses!

'What is a "denier"? It's just so boring and lazy to trot out the same tired old insult'

Oh let me help. A denier is someone who thinks the whole thing including face covers has been a load of over egged bollocks.

'Insults' . You seem to be conveniently forgetting those who have actually understood the need for adhering to the necessary restrictions have been mocked constantly on mn. 'Curtain twitchers' if they notice their ndn having housefuls in lockdown, been accused of having anxiety disorders if they actually agreed with the rules. So stick your 'boring and lazy to insult' comment up your arse.

@JaniieJones This is so true. The amount of times I’ve been told I should see the GP for my anxiety because of literally quoted scientists

A denier is someone who thinks the whole thing including face covers has been a load of over egged bollocks

Who on this thread has said anything like this?