Page 5 | So are we assuming Edward and Sophie stood in the garden an consoled the queen?

satishoused · 2021-04-10T15:36:12+00:00

I hope they didn't and instead used their common sense. Hopefully more and more people are doing the same thing.

ViciousJackdaw · 10/04/2021 19:45

Not only do I hope HM (who I am usually no fan of) was hugged today, I hope she is hugged tomorrow too, perhaps even by her GGC.

I bet the corgis know something's up too.

Abraxan · 10/04/2021 19:45

I hope not.

When FIL died in lockdown 1 we did NOT social distance from MIL or BIL and my nieces.

When my nana and my grandma died in lockdown 1 and the other in the summer, we did NOT socially distance from my parents or my siblings.

It would have been pretty inhumane to not be able to comfort one another.

And that was before vaccinations and testing. Now that many people have had at least once vaccine and it is possible to do twice weekly LFTs, plus get a PCR pretty easily, I definitely wouldn't in such circumstances.

HazeyJaneII · 10/04/2021 19:48

@satishoused

There was that awful Picture today in the news of a a latex glove filled with warm water placed on the hands of dying patients in hospital and my fb was full of people praising the ingenuity of the nurses rather than decrying the fact that this barbaric treatment of denying ill People human contact is now normal.

Was this the 'Little hand' technique of tying 2 gloves filled with warm water together in isolation wards in Brazil? If it is, I think you have slightly misrepresented it.

I hope that anyone who has lost someone in this terrible time has been able to be comforted by those they love.

When my mum was dying in hospital in June, in non Covid ICU, I was able to see her and hold her hand and know that the nurses also held her hand and brushed her hair.

Circumstances meant her funeral was only me, and there will come a day I'll be able to hug my sister (who lives abroad) and we will be able to fall apart together.

@bloodywhitecat, I'm so sorry about your dh

Abraxan · 10/04/2021 19:49

[quote cyclingmad]@bloodywhitecat

Plenty of people who lost loved ones weren't able to be comforted due to lockdown rules

End of the day follow the guidelines, your status does not exempt you from that regardless.

And if your going to be head of the country then lead by example[/quote]
I don't know ANYONE in real life who has been through the death of a loved one who has not broken social distancing rules to receive comfort from family. Thats from grandparents through to children dying. Sadly I know a lot of people who have loved lost ones in the last year, albeit from other reasons.

I don't blame any one of them either.

Marpan · 10/04/2021 19:50

If someone’s dad died are they really not going to see their mother and hug her or go into her house Really???

HazeyJaneII · 10/04/2021 19:52

@RichardMarxisinnocent for you too.
As I say, the funeral for my mum was just me. I don't know if it was the right or wrong thing...we can only do the best we can do in the circumstances at the time.

Feedingthebirds1 · 10/04/2021 19:52

Whether or not it makes me a sheep, for the benefit of everyone I have followed the rules to the letter, whatever the rules were at the time. But if my father had been dying, you wouldn't have seen me for dust. To be with both him and Mum.

Kitkat151 · 10/04/2021 19:52

@Marpan

If someone’s dad died are they really not going to see their mother and hug her or go into her house Really???

Not according to some of the heartless and hard faced on here....l. Ales me so glad for my lovely warm, caring , compassionate family....who have all broken ‘Covid rules’ during the past year in order to comfort bereaved family

HazeyJaneII · 10/04/2021 19:55

Wow @Kitkat151
...heartless and hard faced on here.
2 people have just posted that they were unable to see or hug family or friends when losing someone, and you post that?!

SunshineCake · 10/04/2021 19:55

These rules you think are ridiculous are there to try and save lives..

Obviously I hope they saw the Queen and gave her a hug if that's what she wanted. Well never know.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 10/04/2021 19:57

I don't know ANYONE in real life who has been through the death of a loved one who has not broken social distancing rules to receive comfort from family. Thats from grandparents through to children dying. Sadly I know a lot of people who have loved lost ones in the last year, albeit from other reasons.

As I said above, my family and I didn't hug. We thought we were doing what most people were. I want to turn back time and have the funeral again and hug my whole family. This thread is making me feel others must think we're awful uncaring people, but in my heart I know we're not, there have been plenty of hugs and comfort at pre covid funerals.

JustLyra · 10/04/2021 19:58

It was speculated when Philip was in hospital that the Queen may bubble with Edward and Sophie, but it was decided against as the Wessex children were going to be back at school.

I have a feeling the family knew this was coming and I think many of them would have been isolating as much as possible. So they can safely be around the Queen. She and Sophie are very close, and Sophie was visibly upset when leaving Windsor so if anyone dropped the stiff upper lip and gave a hug it’ll have been her imo.

MindyStClaire · 10/04/2021 19:58

@Feedingthebirds1

Whether or not it makes me a sheep, for the benefit of everyone I have followed the rules to the letter, whatever the rules were at the time. But if my father had been dying, you wouldn't have seen me for dust. To be with both him and Mum.

Exactly this, and my dad did die and I travelled and visited my dad and held his hand and hugged my mum. To my mind, I'm not going to work, I'm not eating out, I'm not seeing friends and those are sacrifices worth making so that families who are bereaved or otherwise struggling can relax a bit.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 10/04/2021 20:02

[quote HazeyJaneII]@RichardMarxisinnocent for you too.
As I say, the funeral for my mum was just me. I don't know if it was the right or wrong thing...we can only do the best we can do in the circumstances at the time.[/quote]
Thank you. That must have been so tough for you I did at least have my DP next to me and family present. You're right, I think we've all done what feels best and right at that particular time, and that's all we can do.

Kitkat151 · 10/04/2021 20:02

@HazeyJaneII

Wow *@Kitkat151* ...heartless and hard faced on here. 2 people have just posted that they were unable to see or hug family or friends when losing someone, and you post that?!

Well obviously if you can’t see your family due to covid restrictions then you can’t hug them....but I honestly don’t know how someone can leave their widowed parent to grieve alone.....and not even reach out with some physical affection ......so yes to me ...that is heartless

Pixxie7 · 10/04/2021 20:02

I don’t believe this the queen has lost her husband and Prince Edward his dad, let them grieve.

littlebillie · 10/04/2021 20:02

I know that The Queen likes Sophie and I think she is that quiet confidant that she will need going forward

JustLyra · 10/04/2021 20:03

@RichardMarxisinnocent

I don't know ANYONE in real life who has been through the death of a loved one who has not broken social distancing rules to receive comfort from family. Thats from grandparents through to children dying. Sadly I know a lot of people who have loved lost ones in the last year, albeit from other reasons.

As I said above, my family and I didn't hug. We thought we were doing what most people were. I want to turn back time and have the funeral again and hug my whole family. This thread is making me feel others must think we're awful uncaring people, but in my heart I know we're not, there have been plenty of hugs and comfort at pre covid funerals.

It’s not uncaring. You were doing what you thought was best at the time. That’s all anyone can ever do.

Abraxan · 10/04/2021 20:08

RichardMarxisinnocent

You did what you felt was best at the time. I hope you are able to see one another soon and catch up on the hugs.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 10/04/2021 20:09

Well obviously if you can’t see your family due to covid restrictions then you can’t hug them....but I honestly don’t know how someone can leave their widowed parent to grieve alone.....and not even reach out with some physical affection ......so yes to me ...that is heartless

I did see family, at the funeral. I just didn't hug them, and none of them tried to hug me.
And there was no widowed parent left to grieve alone, my parents divorced years ago. No step parent either, my dad was single.

Abraxan · 10/04/2021 20:11

These rules you think are ridiculous are there to try and save lives..

If its safe enough for me to be in close contact with 30 children daily without masks, with just an open window then I'm afraid it is safe enough for me to hug a parent who is grieving.

Especially under the current situation where those elderly people have has at least one, if not both, vaccines plus everyone can access twice weekly LFTs.

RichardMarxisinnocent · 10/04/2021 20:12

Thank you JustLyra and Abraxan
I am hoping to take some trips to see them over the summer.

SwirlsMcGee · 10/04/2021 20:15

My mum died a month ago. She was 60, cancer, I had my first DC in lockdown last year and he'll never remember her.

You can bet your life I hugged my sibling.

Kitkat151 · 10/04/2021 20:15

@RichardMarxisinnocent

Well obviously if you can’t see your family due to covid restrictions then you can’t hug them....but I honestly don’t know how someone can leave their widowed parent to grieve alone.....and not even reach out with some physical affection ......so yes to me ...that is heartless

I did see family, at the funeral. I just didn't hug them, and none of them tried to hug me.
And there was no widowed parent left to grieve alone, my parents divorced years ago. No step parent either, my dad was single.

My post was never aimed at you ...it was at a PP who said the queen should not have her children to visit the day after losing her us and as it not ‘in the rules’ .....it’s just that @HazeyJaneII jumped in with her size 9s assuming I was take a swipe at her and you....which I wasn’t....I would probably have done exactly the same as you in your particular circumstances.....I am sorry for your loss and sorry that my post may have offended you

phodopus · 10/04/2021 20:18

I don't know whether it was within the guidelines or not but I don't care if any family does this, royal or not. Sometimes you just have to what is right and humane and worry about the legal technicalities later.

Having staff around is absolutely not the same thing as a son. How could anyone with a brain and a heart suggest it is?