So are we assuming Edward and Sophie stood in the garden an consoled the queen?

[satishoused]

I hope they didn't and instead used their common sense. Hopefully more and more people are doing the same thing.

[quote ballsdeep]@cyclingmad
Are you seriously saying, if a close member of your family passed away you wouldn't console your family because of the covid rukes????????[/quote]
There are many ways to console people, and i wouldn't nor would my family want to risk catching covid. So yes we follow the guidelines. Because we are mature enough to understand and accept the current way things are.

[quote cyclingmad]@strawberrylipstickstateofmind

Really because plenty of people think its okay if she breaks the guidlines. Why? Becuae she is the queen, that's why.

Would you be saying the same to anyone else?[/quote]
To be fair as excuses go ‘because she’s the Queen’ is a pretty good one.

My sister in law's mother died last week and I went to offer condolences and went inside.

[quote cyclingmad]@strawberrylipstickstateofmind

Really because plenty of people think its okay if she breaks the guidlines. Why? Becuae she is the queen, that's why.

Would you be saying the same to anyone else?[/quote]
Of course I would say it to someone other than the Queen, when a friend's 11 year old child died from cancer recently you can bet your bottom dollar I hugged her.

@satishoused

I hope they didn't and instead used their common sense. Hopefully more and more people are doing the same thing.

I think it's pretty bad taste to use the death of someone's husband and father to make a point about what you think of the covid guidelines.

There really are some mean spirited posts around today.

I suspect that actually they did try their best to socially distance for the sake of the Queen. At her age she's very high risk even with both vaccines (efficacy isn't 100%).

If they didn't under such distressing circumstances for her (and for them) who can judge that? In any case PP have already pointed out it would come under support bubble or providing care (emotional is as important as physical) to somebody vulnerable.

@AbsolutelyPatsy

hasnt edward taken over the dukedom?

Derailing the thread here, but Charles, as the oldest son inherits the title. However, when he becomes king the title merges with the crown and can be awarded to someone else. Charles has promised the queen he’ll give it to Edward.

Regardless of wether she’s the queen or she’s Mrs bloggs from nowhereville, I don’t begrudge her a hug from her family. Less people are dieing from covid now than normal flu or cancer. We don’t stop hugging people every winter!!
I am sure that the royal family have all now been vaccinated, and also have access to instant tests so I assume in order to keep granny safe they will be tested each time they see her.
It is a working household so I’m sure that technically they could hold a ‘company meeting’ in order to get round the covid police who have an issue with a grieving widow who’s lost her husband of 70 years!!

Not really anyone's business, is it?

I disagree it is in poor taste. I have the greatest respect for them both. But this is the context against which this death has taken place and it is natural to discuss it. We are after all sleepwalking into an authoritarian police state, which I am sure the Prince himself would have abhorred.

There are many ways to console people, and i wouldn't nor would my family want to risk catching covid. So yes we follow the guidelines. Because we are mature enough to understand and accept the current way things are

You need help. That's 👆 so sinister.

Lets just though out all the covid guidlines then, go do whatever the hell you like.

Our leaders do. So screw it. Why follow the guidelines they tell us when they won't themselves.

Well @cyclingmad I'm glad my family and friends are more compassionate than you and you'll never have to comfort me.

And please don't be so condescending alluding to maturity for wanting to comfort a grieving member of your family who has just lost their whole world.

You really do sound the most miserable, joyless, unsympathetic person @cyclingmad .

Another coronabot, thankfully they're far fewer in number these days.

@satishoused

I hope she was hugged and kissed and consoled by all of her visitors *@HalfShrunkMoreToGo* in defiance of these inhumane rules

The Queen is from a much more reserved and formal generation.

I cannot imagine for a minute that her visitors - even family - hugged and kissed her. She would be horrified.

@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind

You really do sound the most miserable, joyless, unsympathetic person *@cyclingmad* .

Another coronabot, thankfully they're far fewer in number these days.

Lol if thats what you think.

But hey by all means go hug family members your friends etc. And let other people do the same, someone might end up passing it to someone close to you and what then if they die....but hey whatever right.

I'm far from miserable and joyless thanks I just have a strong opinion that following the guideline smears we can go through this quickly whereas whats been evidently clear that where on a large scale we haven't its prolonged lockdowns

@ballsdeep

Well *@cyclingmad* I'm glad my family and friends are more compassionate than you and you'll never have to comfort me.

And please don't be so condescending alluding to maturity for wanting to comfort a grieving member of your family who has just lost their whole world.

Sure if you say so. Id rather not have it on my concoiis that by breaking the rules I passed covid on to someone who the died.

I'd rather have to deal with a few sacrifices.

Well @cyclingmad, you do 🤷‍♀️

Completely unable to balance anything else, or the harm caused by the restrictions themselves, and only focused on one issue with an inability to see the bigger picture.

Anyway if they want or need to, Windsor Castle and it's grounds is plenty big enough to do social distancing in.

"There are many ways to console people, and i wouldn't nor would my family want to risk catching covid"

All of those who have gone to see her would have been vaccinated and tested.

@cyclingmad you do sound joyless, irrational and completely lacking in compassion that you can't see the costs of lockdown far outweigh the risks from Covid.

I care about the loss of education, increase in mental health issues and suicides, undiagnosed cancers, loneliness and isolation, loss of income, loss of the dignity of work, destruction of the economy, long term psychological harm of being forced to view other humans as potential vectors of disease. I could go on.

@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind

Well *@cyclingmad*, you do 🤷‍♀️

Completely unable to balance anything else, or the harm caused by the restrictions themselves, and only focused on one issue with an inability to see the bigger picture.

Not really, we wouldn't need endless lockdowns if collectively we followed the guidlines the first time. How else did number rise when people relaxed too much thats when otherwise they were dropping.

But all the oh well I'm just seeing my family. Or its just a trip to the beach. Ill just leabijg over x person in the supermarket. Oh im not feeling well but it csnt be covid so ill just nip out. 🙄

Only had to see the threads on here throughout lockdown to see people trying to bend the rules.

I hope they are hugging and kissing the Queen too. She is an old lady who has just lost the love of her life. If she was Sheila down the road I’d be saying the same thing.

There are lots of people on here who have no soul and lack class and respect.

Literally couldn't care less.

I'd say that whether it was the Queen or an elderly lady in a council flat.

If we've become this dehumanised that we'd judge someone for consoling someone under these circumstances then we really have lost the plot well and truly.

Never mind the fact that compliance with the lockdowns was far higher than the government ever expected it to be then @cyclingmad

And of course, the only way people contracted coronavirus was through breaking rules wasn't it. The virus is that clever that it only decided to infect the naughty rule breakers!

No one contracted it through having to go to work at all did they. Or school. Or when in hospital for entirely unrelated reasons. Or when the elderly were discharged into care homes by the NHS.

You sound a really nasty individual.