Anyone else regretting their choice to get vaccinated?

[onthetracks]

I had my first vaccine 4 weeks ago (AZ)
I was really put off my having it and didn’t feel 100% happy, but since I’m clinically vulnerable to Covid and I also look after my elderly grandmother who is Clinically extremely l vulnerable, i thought it was the right thing to do.

Since having the vaccine I read no end of negative reports, side effects, blood clots and now deaths.

I’m terrified that I’m going to develop a blood clot and die.

I know this may sound irrational, which is surprising for me as I’m usually able to rationalise things.
But I can’t help feeling that it’s all been a bit rushed.
We’re all so desperate for normal life that we’ve jumped at the chance to be injected with something that we don’t actually know is safe.

Only now that millions of people are having the vaccine are we being alerted to adverse effects.

I’m really starting to regret that I’ve had the vaccine and I honestly don’t think I will go for my 2nd jab. 😣

@WhitechapelLass

onthetracks I think the confusion is that at 11:51am you said my first dose isn’t for another 8 weeks. Presumably you meant second dose?

@WhitechapelLass

Oops! Yep. I meant second! Already had my first.

@Keepyourdistance000

I've got my first jab this week and because of this thread am extremely anxious and considering not having it

@Keepyourdistance000

Solely because of this thread...?

@Boringlynormal

I've got my first jab this week and because of this thread am extremely anxious and considering not having it

With respect @Keepyourdistance000 you really shouldn’t make important medical decisions based on a thread on Mumsnet.

@Boringlynormal

Agreed!

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WTF is this.... 😦

@GoLightlyontheEarth

If it is considered as safe as we are told it is, why won’t the govt accept liability for vaccine damage in the future? That worries me a lot.

This!

@GoLightlyontheEarth where did you read that Govt won't accept liability as I thought they would?

I found this. So looks liike Govt will accept liability.
Where did people hear otherwise?

@Justdontbejudgy

I had the AZ one 3 weeks ago. I am intending to get my 2nd as I reckon being on the pill for nearly 20 years on and off, and two pregnancies were much more likely to give me a blood clot.

However about a week ago the pain returned to the injection site. It comes and goes and is never horrendous but pretty noticeable and occasionally uncomfortable. Don't really want to hassle my GP, as I expect there will be a few concerned re the blood clots etc. My Aunt has also had the same thing (she's early 60s, I'm late 30s) although her's sounds more painful.

Anyone else had this? I've read a few threads on here but can't see anything, I will confess I've not read the whole of this one as yet.....

Pain at the injection site after a month can be caused by infection under your skin. It should always be checked by a GP in case you need antibiotics; please get yours checked and have your aunt go too. Your GP will want to be hassled about that.

@onthetracks there was a thread with a similar post from the same poster

"GovernmentBotTinaDepartment54

What people need to remember is not everyone can get the vaccine so we must vaccinate to protect those that can't get the vaccine who may be vulnerable.

The vaccine isn't just for your health but to protect the NHS from being overrun. I have an elderly relative who was in intensive care for several weeks with covid and the suffering was beyond imaginable both for her, in her final hours along with family.

Please also remember long covid which over a million people are suffering from, thousands of young people are debilitated as a consequence of this which people forget about.

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It got deleted. When I started a thread to query why, that got deleted too.

Tina government bot also told me id be well advised to watch my anti vac rhetoric (I've never posted anything anti vax though I completely defend personal choice on the vaccine). Tina then went on to say my anti vax rhetoric would be investigated by the relevant department

It's all a bit odd.

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@onthetracks I’ve also had AZ. No side effects. Was informed by DSister yesterday that - very, very minimal risk over blood clots is for 20 days after receiving jab, so I’m on day 14 (not that I’m particularly concerned). But the vaccine is saving the nation, saving businesses, saving lives, allowing me to provide care for my elderly mum. Nothing is risk free, so it’s a balance. And the benefits far, far, far outweigh the risks in my opinion.

That faux code is included deliberately, it's just code to print a list of integers (numbers).

"complex abs_p = sqrt (p->real p->real + p->im p->im); int x;" is python scripting to convert imaginary numbers, it can't do anything on a forum.

Whoever posted that undoubtedly thinks they can fool people into believing there is a government bot stifling conversation. They might do better if they went to their IT team to get some code that looks remotely relevant; Google translate can adjust the wording in the middle for you as required. (Also if using the above for good purposes; instead of the d, "%s" should be used with trailing /n or you'll get an error.)

MNHQ should just block the account and remove the posts - rather than completely deleting the threads it pops up on.

MNHQ are probably on Easter holiday hours so bots and the like will post

The post above about liability was both wrong and right. As posted after the Government will allow victims in certain cases to apply to the vaccine damage scheme. However the unusual bit was as we allowed the vax to be rushed through the manufacturers themselves were given a bit of leaway compared with normal vaccinations

fullfact.org/health/unlicensed-vaccine-manufacturers-are-immune-some-not-all-civil-liability/

As far as I know due to the emergency situation last year the CV19 vaccines in the Uk do not have a marketing authorisation which usually is required but instead are "approved" www.gov.uk/government/publications/regulatory-approval-of-pfizer-biontech-vaccine-for-covid-19/conditions-of-authorisation-for-pfizerbiontech-covid-19-vaccine

I would not let that put people off having the vaccine if they choose to have it (although I put my reasons for its not being appropriate for me above on this thread)

@MRex

That faux code is included deliberately, it's just code to print a list of integers (numbers).

"complex abs_p = sqrt (p->real p->real + p->im p->im); int x;" is python scripting to convert imaginary numbers, it can't do anything on a forum.

Whoever posted that undoubtedly thinks they can fool people into believing there is a government bot stifling conversation. They might do better if they went to their IT team to get some code that looks remotely relevant; Google translate can adjust the wording in the middle for you as required. (Also if using the above for good purposes; instead of the d, "%s" should be used with trailing /n or you'll get an error.)

Thanks for the info.

I wish others would read this post. The fake code is clearly doing it's job...

I've had covid and I've also had my first Pfizer dose.

The govt recently released a report from a study which showed people who had covid then had their first vaccine dose have an immune response that is the same, if not better, than people who have not had covid but have had two doses of the vaccine. This included better breadth of T-cell response which should help protect against variants. However they basically said everyone should still hsve two doses because plenty of people think they've had covid but don't have it confirmed and if they miss the second dose but didn't have covid that's a problem. My covid is well and truly confirmed though.

I have developed some possible autoimmune symptoms, but also long covid symptoms so hard to tell which is which. However if I am developing an autoimmune condition (most likely due to covid, not the vaccine) I don't much want to poke at my immune system further by having the second dose. I don't have 'why", as in a good reason to do that, if my protection is now as good as if I had had two doses. Factor in that women make up 80% of diagnosed autoimmune conditions and women who have previously have covid have the worst adverse effects from the second dose of Pfizer (according to Zoe app) then yeah I think I'd regret dose 2 and I'm thinking of cancelling the appointment.

They aren't tested longer term because they can't be. There will be more info to come out and continued refinements. Hopefully nothing too worrying but no one can really know. The chances of dropping dead after having it are low but that's not all there is to think about.

I'm trying to be balanced based on my specific circumstances. You've passed the risk of blood clots op so chances are second dose would be fine.

@oceanswim
I'm due my second dose tomorrow and I have had covid (positive test in November) and I'm suffering with long covid. I'm so worried about my second jab and really don't know what to do

Thanks @Xenia I had heard that the manufacturers had some protection from liability but the previous poster is still sharing misinformation which could put people off having the vaccine.

Thanks. Going to phone them now.

@MRex

That faux code is included deliberately, it's just code to print a list of integers (numbers).

"complex abs_p = sqrt (p->real p->real + p->im p->im); int x;" is python scripting to convert imaginary numbers, it can't do anything on a forum.

Whoever posted that undoubtedly thinks they can fool people into believing there is a government bot stifling conversation. They might do better if they went to their IT team to get some code that looks remotely relevant; Google translate can adjust the wording in the middle for you as required. (Also if using the above for good purposes; instead of the d, "%s" should be used with trailing /n or you'll get an error.)

Exactly - another poster did something slightly similar (posting a bit of code as a joke for those who would understand it) on a thread a while back.

It is telling (and sad) that some people now think there is a conspiracy to remove anti-vax posts/posters from Mumsnet. It'll be all over Facebook soon.

@onthetracks

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WTF is this.... 😦

The government trying to shut down discussion on Mumnsnet? Or a poster having a laugh?

Occam's razor and all that.

@perfectpizza I'm undecided too. It's hard to know what's best. And they are so new it's just not possible to know either way.

@oceanswim I think one of the studies showed that antibody levels could be up to 10 times higher in previously infected patients with one dose compared to two doses in people who had never been infected.

It would free up a lot of doses if this is the case.

@oceanswim I have two autoimmune conditions, and I understand your worry about aggravating your immune system as it was something that niggled at me. In case it helps at all, I have been fine since my first AZ dose (so far! It was three weeks ago) and will happily get the second. I have a sister who has the same autoimmune conditions, she has had the vaccine (also AZ) and is fine too.