Canada pauses AZ vaccines for under 55s (and says women most at risk)

[Boringlynormal]

Please tell me this isn’t something to worry about: www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/30/canada-suspends-use-of-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-for-those-under-55

Speaking as a woman in her 30s who was immunised 4 days ago (article tells us the risk is for young women 4 - 20 days after vaccination), I’m panicking now. Yes I know it’s rare but so is dying of Covid in my age group so I’m wondering if I’ve made a huge mistake.

By the way I’m very pro vaccine and leapt on the chance to get one. I’m just feeling so anxious now.

i feel you , it’s currently the time of the month for me and i suffer with awful migraines during that time and i’m also a week post AZ ... this is going to be a long few weeks but i’m staying positive hopefully , we’ll be okay!

Nothing in the world is ever 100% safe but in fact you were 99.999% safe at least all the time because the risk is 1/100000 ie 0.001% and that teeny tiny risk has to be smaller every day after 20 days

I hope maybe that helps you to feel better. If you do have a rash and a persistent headache that you feel is different than usual though then please do try to see your GP. Surely you can send them a picture or have a telephone appt even if not face to face

Part of me thinks this is a turf war between different vaccine companies.

I really really hate the bloody government for their stupid statement today:

Communities Secretary Robert Jenrick says he doesn't believe there's a need to look at its use in the UK however.

He told Sky News: "We're 100% confident in the efficacy of the vaccine, that's borne out by study after study, by our own independent world-class regulators and by recent research

NOBODY IS QUESTIONING HOW EFFICIENT IT IS. This is about safety. Stand up and tell me you’re 100% confident in the safety or stop letting young women like me put it into their bodies.

is it just 21 days because thats the current longest time after vaccine that its happened? how do we know we are 100% safe after that time period

Yes. And we don’t know. We don’t know what will happen until it happens to us or we react. This is wrong on every level.

'NOBODY IS QUESTIONING HOW EFFICIENT IT IS. This is about safety. Stand up and tell me you’re 100% confident in the safety or stop letting young women like me put it into their bodies.'

Well said Boringlynormal. Just what I've been thinking. They should give us a choice to go for Pfizer if we are worried.

Great. Shifting the risk from old males to young women. Fml

Thanks to those who posted re family history of blood clots. My instinct is to be as cautious as possible when it comes to anything that has an elevated risk of clots - my aunt dropped dead of a PE in her 40’s and other family members have been hospitalised. It does sound like Covid would be riskier than the jab. I probably have the luxury of waiting a bit longer anyway as I’m in my 30’s with no additional risk factors for Covid.

Meaning it will be a while before I’m called anyway, so there may be more info by then anyway.

so the advice is to get checked if you have a headache for 4 days surely thats risky if it is caused by this rare clotting disorder
im genuinely scared to go to sleep tonight i cant stop worrying which probably isnt helping my headache

I know they’re saying 20 days but I haven’t seen data on any case that happened after day 16 (14 for females). That doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist but certainly it’s not in the group they’ve studied.

1 in 10,000 chance of dying in childbirth, for UK pregnancies.

1 in 100,000 chance of developing the rare blood clot, according to German data.

I’m not sure I understand the panic among elements of the MN demographic tbh.

@Circumlocutious if you had a rare disease with higher odds that had compoeyelu changed your life you may have the ability to empathise concerns over a side effect with lower odds.

Boringlynormal ah ok thats interesting. IM finding this all so confusing 😕 i can't seem to find much detailed info especially about the young nurses in norway who sadly died its just so scary to read and there seems to be nothing in the uk news about it

@anyoldtime @Dustyboots

Thank you. I agree we have instinct for a reason.

@anyoldtime I was only throwing the question out there about Canada. I'm glad to hear they are neutral. I plan to fully research what other countries are saying.

Circumlocutious i completely get where you are coming from and when you look at those figures it doesnt seem as bad but its just knowing covid wasnt particularly high risk for me i probably wouldnt have had the vaccine knowing that it also carried horrible risks. I went for it believing it was safe and that i was protecting my family and CEV child now im just a total mess
the thing i cant get my head around is if we dont know how many women under 50s for eg have had the jab how do we know the risk is small? surely we cant base it off the total amount of az vaccines given as men seem to be less risk as do older women so surely it could actually be higher

Last post was meant for @qwertygirly

gutinstinctlpl No problem. I knew it wasn’t for me.

i know quite a few young people particularly females that have had AZ. The risk is still relatively small but i agree with the above posters it is the unknown that’s scary

@Circumlocutious

1 in 10,000 chance of dying in childbirth, for UK pregnancies.

1 in 100,000 chance of developing the rare blood clot, according to German data.

I’m not sure I understand the panic among elements of the MN demographic tbh.

For a young woman of child-bearing age, the figures may well be:

7 in 100,000 chance of dying in childbirth for UK pregnancies

6 in 100,000 chance of dying from covid

19 in 100,000 chance of developing a blood clot

9 in 100,000 chance of dying from the blood clot

MrsIsobelCrawley are you referring to tge blood clot from vaccone or covid in those stats? do you have a link

Just want to give my experience..

I'm 27 and I had my az vaccine 4 weeks ago today so just before everything started coming out about blood clots.
I have sticky blood so I've had a few clotting episodes in my life. My most recent was a cerebral sinus venous thrombosis 2.5 years ago.
So the fact that this 'rare' clot could be a side effect from the vaccine is pretty scary as my worst fear is to go through that again.

Anyway just wanted to say i had the vaccine 28 days ago and so far no clots. I felt like a had a bad hangover for 24 hours and my period was late and very light when I had it but that's about it.
Can't say I'm not anxious about my 2nd but clots from covid are much more likely than from the vaccine.

They should give us a choice to go for Pfizer if we are worried

They don't have enough Pfizer for that. They'll do the second doses and then finish with it.

If you don't want AZ you'll have to wait for Moderna or Novavax.

@Lastfreakinglegs

Part of me thinks this is a turf war between different vaccine companies.

I think so especially as AZ isn't making a profit on it. And Pfizer tried to buy AZ a decade or so ago, which I only found out today.

@MrsIsobelCrawley - Please explain the age you are using and the source for your numbers. They look wildly inaccurate, which is concerning as you are using them to make a point.