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Do you know anyone who has been vaccinated, but subsequently contracted covid and died? *(Title edited)

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ChocOrange1 · 27/03/2021 16:07

Just looking for anecdata, which I know is not robust. I was wondering if anyone here knows someone who has died of covid after being vaccinated? Not including people who tested positive a few days after being vaccinated, where obviously they hadn't developed immunity yet. Just wondering really.

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ChocOrange1 · 27/03/2021 18:33

@YukoandHiro

No, have you read any of the news stories? There aren't any. US study: AZ 100 per cent effective against serious illness.
But a study wouldn't look at every single person who has a vaccine, just a sample.
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TwoIsQuiteEnoughThankYou · 27/03/2021 18:36

No. And even if they had what difference would it make? You're just encouraging fools with this kind of nonsense.

Bvop · 27/03/2021 18:48

I know someone who has had the vaccine and has also painted their door yellow in the last month. Sounds like this is an unreported side effect.

(Correlation does not equal causation)

HmmmmmmInteresting · 27/03/2021 19:16

@Bvop

I know someone who has had the vaccine and has also painted their door yellow in the last month. Sounds like this is an unreported side effect.

(Correlation does not equal causation)

Omg, me too!
NameChangedForThisFeb21 · 27/03/2021 19:17

I’ve had my second vaccine and am now thinking of doing some more yellow decorating in my house...

JessesGirl · 27/03/2021 19:31

My 94 year old grandfather caught Covid about 18 days after his first dose. He died just over two weeks later from it.
Honestly, I think it would have been over quicker for him without the vaccine. It was such a drawn out, horrible process in the end.

Lumene · 27/03/2021 19:43

If no one who had the vaccine died within a few weeks afterwards, it would be a miracle.

We could all be vaccinated every fortnight, and thus life forever.

FourWordsImMuNiTy · 27/03/2021 19:43

@YukoandHiro

No, have you read any of the news stories? There aren't any. US study: AZ 100 per cent effective against serious illness.
I’m generally pro Astra Zeneca but this “100% effective against serious disease and death” thing which keeps being quoted winds me up terribly given the very small numbers of deaths in the placebo group. Say “there were no cases of serious illness or death in vaccinated people in the trial” if you want to but don’t quote 100% effectiveness without giving us some sodding error bars!
Lumene · 27/03/2021 19:43

Sorry to hear about your grandfather Jesses. Flowers

ChocOrange1 · 27/03/2021 20:47

@TwoIsQuiteEnoughThankYou

No. And even if they had what difference would it make? You're just encouraging fools with this kind of nonsense.
I'm not trying to encourage anyone to do or not do anything. I'm just interested to see if real world "data" is reflecting the "100% protection against death" which has been reported a few times. No agenda.
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ChocOrange1 · 27/03/2021 20:49

@Lumene

If no one who had the vaccine died within a few weeks afterwards, it would be a miracle.

We could all be vaccinated every fortnight, and thus life forever.

The post very clearly says from covid. The title now also says from covid. I don't think anyone is claiming that the vaccine prevents you dying full stop.
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ancientgran · 27/03/2021 21:24

@Sandgrown1970

Two homes, the one in Sidmouth has had 9 deaths and 2 members of staff arrested. At one point there were 10 more residents in hospital and 1 member of staff.

The other home is in Exmouth and they also had 9 die. No investigation that I know of.

The Sidmouth home said most residents had the vaccine, the Exmouth one said all the residents had the vaccine.

I wasn't being hysterical, that is very rude. Dismissing the truth as being hysterical is unnecessary. Or do you think we can only talk about positive things? Propaganda I suppose you'd call it.

So adding the two together comes to 18.

Thank you for clarifying that you were referring to two separate cases.

I am not “dismissing the truth”, nor am I alleging anything about these deaths being propaganda (propaganda for what for a start?).

I don’t think it’s rude to suggest we avoid hysteria. I think it’s important instead acknowledge to the facts without jumping to conclusions about overall vaccine effectiveness. There are two incidences in the same vicinity (so again, possible faulty batch/wrong storage), police, CQC and social services investigations are underway and not complete. Let’s wait for the findings and reserve judgment. It’s sad, especially as there has clearly been human error or neglect play a role in this, but look on a global scale or even just a national scale and at least try and look at the data.
Two care homes, 30 minutes apart.
As opposed to thousands up and down the U.K. where this simply isn’t happening. Why aren’t we hearing of huge symptomatic outbreaks and deaths happening amongst vaccinated service users and carers in care homes worldwide? It’s strange. It’s an oddity. That’s why it’s so heavily reported. It flies in the face of the on the ground success of the vaccine programme in care homes throughout the U.K. (and worldwide). And that’s why I think it’s important not to fixate on two isolated cases in the same area which are still under investigation.

It is also important to acknowledge facts.

Possible faulty batch/wrong storage - we don't know if they were the same batch, the care home I work at had the vaccine weeks after other nearby homes. Maybe you need to wait for the facts before making up explanations.

The investigation that has been reported is at one of the homes, I live in Devon and hear lots about it locally but I haven't heard anything about the Exmouth home being investigated. Again you aren't using facts.

If you look at my posts I said it was two homes from the beginning, someone suggested there were 5 to 10 cases in the world of someone dying after contracting covid when they had already had the vaccine, I was stating a fact that 18 people died in Devon alone. The OP was asking if anyone had heard of any, I don't think you need to censor facts.

I've had the vaccine as has my husband and two of my adult children, I'm not looking to put anyone off but if someone asks a question and someone says something that is clearly wrong I don't think it is "hysterical" to point that out.

I'll leave you to it.

ancientgran · 27/03/2021 21:26

@Bvop

I know someone who has had the vaccine and has also painted their door yellow in the last month. Sounds like this is an unreported side effect.

(Correlation does not equal causation)

Obviously that is exactly like a major outbreak resulting in 9 deaths in a home where every resident had had their jabs weeks before.
Sandgrown1970 · 27/03/2021 21:56

It is also important to acknowledge facts.

That’s exactly what I said. It’s important to acknowledge facts. You are just parroting back to me what I’ve already said.

Possible faulty batch/wrong storage - we don't know if they were the same batch, the care home I work at had the vaccine weeks after other nearby homes. Maybe you need to wait for the facts before making up explanations.

Hence my use of the word possible. It’s a possible explanation but further investigation is needed. I suggested this possibility not as a fact but as a mere suggestion other than jumping to the wider conclusion that the vaccine doesn’t prevent deaths on a large scale in care homes.

The investigation that has been reported is at one of the homes, I live in Devon and hear lots about it locally but I haven't heard anything about the Exmouth home being investigated. Again you aren't using facts.

You seem to only be referring to a police Investigation. I am referring to police, CQC and social services investigations. I know for a fact they are ongoing at BOTH homes.

If you look at my posts I said it was two homes from the beginning, someone suggested there were 5 to 10 cases in the world of someone dying after contracting covid when they had already had the vaccine, I was stating a fact that 18 people died in Devon alone. The OP was asking if anyone had heard of any, I don't think you need to censor facts.

I didn’t notice/read all your posts. Only the one directed at NameChangeFeb21 in which you told that poster to Google the Sidmouth Care Home only, not two homes. And accused that poster of lying when actually it seemed quite clear that they were commenting about their own town only.

I’m not attempting to censor anything.

I've had the vaccine as has my husband and two of my adult children, I'm not looking to put anyone off but if someone asks a question and someone says something that is clearly wrong I don't think it is "hysterical" to point that out.

I'll leave you to it.

I’m unclear what precisely was “completely wrong” or which poster you are alluding to but could you also note that I never directly accused you of being hysterical. I think it’s important that the public (the “we” I referred to but you took as a direct personal attack) not become hysterical and to lose our critical thinking and evaluation skills amidst reports of what currently appears to be an anomaly and deviation from the norm in one geographical area and especially when the full findings of the police, CQC and local authority investigations have not been a) reached and b) released to the public.

Great that all you and your loved ones have been vaccinated.

Quite happy to be left to it thanks!

Dongdingdong · 27/03/2021 22:00

No but also, what a silly question to ask on a public forum. It’s literally a gift for trolls.

Spied · 27/03/2021 22:12

2 months after his first vaccine I know of an elderly man who contracted Covid and died about a week later.

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