Holidays abroad are illegal from Monday

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389921/Ban-leaving-UK-amid-new-coronavirus-laws-force-week.html

Along with any other unnecessary travel abroad.

@PigeonPants

I like how they refer to "a reasonable excuse" for travelling, rather than a reason or justification or requirement or exemption. I assumed that was just the Mail, but no, the new government forms and guidance (for travel 29/3 and after) use the term:

You must complete this form to confirm that you have a reasonable excuse for leaving the UK to travel abroad...

Reasonable excuses for international travel include: •work•volunteering•education•medical, or compassionate grounds•funerals•leaving the UK if you do not live in the UK, and have only been here temporarily•allowing access to parents with children who do not live in the same country.

Find out more about the reasonable excuses for international travel...

You can fill in a freeform excuse if your excuse is not listed.

Where did you see it that parents could travel so they could see there child

I don't understand this one. If I'm going to a country that has malaria, say, and I get vaccinated, I can go to a country that has malaria. I thought the vaccines were going to set us free? Data so far seems to show vaccine holding up against SA variant??

@Familyshopper it's in the legislation.

@Lindylindyloo

I don't understand this one. If I'm going to a country that has malaria, say, and I get vaccinated, I can go to a country that has malaria. I thought the vaccines were going to set us free? Data so far seems to show vaccine holding up against SA variant??

Exactly. All recent data shows vaccines are largely preventing transmission AND preventing serious illness in almost all cases. So to introduce a travel ban this year rather than last year makes no sense, at all.

I think it is right that going abroad on holiday this year is illegal. We need to protect this island nation from a third wave and boost the local economy.

However, it seems one of the exceptions is if you own a second home abroad you can go to "maintain" it. I thought that is what oversees cleaning and maintenance agencies are for?

Typical Boris Johnson, giving allowances for his rich Eton and Oxbridge chums so they can have a jolly holiday in the sun, but the rest of us peasants could be fined £5000 for the pleasure of a foreign holiday.
But this is from the same man who thinks capitalism and greed is a good thing.

There’s not much data (in fact none) re AZ and SA variant except one study where participants were too young to draw conclusions. Other vaccines are ok with it. Hopefully AZ will prevent hospitalisations with SA but it’s unknown as yet.

@Eowyn78

I think it is right that going abroad on holiday this year is illegal. We need to protect this island nation from a third wave and boost the local economy.

However, it seems one of the exceptions is if you own a second home abroad you can go to "maintain" it. I thought that is what oversees cleaning and maintenance agencies are for?

Typical Boris Johnson, giving allowances for his rich Eton and Oxbridge chums so they can have a jolly holiday in the sun, but the rest of us peasants could be fined £5000 for the pleasure of a foreign holiday.
But this is from the same man who thinks capitalism and greed is a good thing.

For the thousandth time, the UK is not "an island".

And so they should be

Good. People move around far too much these days. It's not necessary.

I thought a small land surrounded by water is called an island.

I thought we would be able to travel after having the vaccination.

Why are they banning travel now, when millions of people are now vaccinated, to protect them from the virus?

Surely, the ban should have come in last year?

Every day people are being vaccinated against covid.

@MaxNormal

Between that and the mandatory vaccines for carers it's all going a bit North Korea. Still, as long as we're all safe.

there are no mandatory vaccines for anybody. Holidays abroad are already illegal and not just in England.

Good. People move around far too much these days. It's not necessary.

So we're basing the law on what you deem 'necessary' now? how very dictatorial of you

You know what I think many things are unnecessary, even if other people enjoy them, lets just ban them all.

Or accept that generally we have free will and should be able to choose what we do within reason (not harming others ect)

Whatever peoples opinions on whether this is a necessary response to covid in the short term are I think the biggest arseholes to come out of this whole thing are the people for whom this has just been a great excuse to exercise their control freak attitudes over others and have reveled in other peoples misery.

Well,I guess the acquiescence, naivety and complacency on this thread makes it clear that we'll live like this forever.

However, it seems one of the exceptions is if you own a second home abroad you can go to "maintain" it. I thought that is what oversees cleaning and maintenance agencies are for?

I don't agree with the Johnson senior loop hole but good luck in organising agency cleaning in some of the deepest parts of rural Europe..

You might find some old boy or girl in the local village, to help out for cash once a week but that's about as far as it usually goes.

Where I am resident it's v v rural and it's been fairly traditional for the Brit owners themselves to arrive at the start of the season to "open up" and do the heavy work - fix the plumbing that's sprung over winter get the septic tank emptied, evict the pine martens from the loft..The grass gets cut and laundry is done on changeover day and then the owners return in the autumn to close it down (drain the plumbing, empty the septic tank...evict the pie martens from the loft again..)

First world problem I know, but not everywhere has agencies on tap.

@Ohnomoreno

Well,I guess the acquiescence, naivety and complacency on this thread makes it clear that we'll live like this forever.

I’m confused

The mix of adjective you use are contradictory

Are you describing those pushing for summer hols as this or those anti?

@Viviennemary

Good. People move around far too much these days. It's not necessary.

Golden input Just golden

@AnaofBroceliande

Trapping people in their own country, but hey, it's safe.

It’s safer than a lot of Europe currently and hopefully we can stay safer if people play their part

Never seems to occur to the whingers that flying about all the time is unsustainable and there are many of us who cannot afford to go abroad every year if at all anyway

@Oaktree55

Agree. I think come July/August foreign travel will be allowed with as you say, vaccination proof and/or test

I thought a small land surrounded by water is called an island.

Correct. So the U.K. isn't an island.

@Eowyn78

@Paisleygarden123

FYI

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

@Viviennemary

Good. People move around far too much these days. It's not necessary.

Ahh lovely. I’ve worked in travel all my life, the industry is on its knees, our partners in many parts of the world who rely on tourism can’t pay their staff who can’t feed their children. I’ve got a mortgage to pay and children too.

But you are saying good to the decimation of a whole industry and all that it supports as you think people move around too much.

I hope you can pay your mortgage and feed your kids this month...

* It’s safer than a lot of Europe currently and hopefully we can stay safer if people play their part*

Since when did safety trump everything with absolutely no regard to... probability.

@Paisleygarden123

I thought a small land surrounded by water is called an island.

I thought we would be able to travel after having the vaccination.

Why are they banning travel now, when millions of people are now vaccinated, to protect them from the virus?

Surely, the ban should have come in last year?

Every day people are being vaccinated against covid.

Guess you haven't heard of Northern Ireland then.