Holidays abroad are illegal from Monday

[Dugee]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389921/Ban-leaving-UK-amid-new-coronavirus-laws-force-week.html

Along with any other unnecessary travel abroad.

@Stratfordplace

What’s wrong with Mallorca, Ibiza, Benidorm or the Costa del Sol. Some of us don’t like to holiday amongst impoverished locals in 5* resorts when there is unimaginable poverty nearby. I’ve seen the rest of the world, I like the Mediterranean thanks very much.

Exactly, the posters saying this just look like embarrassing snobs.

I can’t wait to go to Mallorca with the brainless lemmings 😂

I’d rather be there than with the smunts on here.

@WouldBeGood

I can’t wait to go to Mallorca with the brainless lemmings 😂

I’d rather be there than with the smunts on here.

What I would give to be lying on a beach in Mallorca!

@Stratfordplace

What’s wrong with Mallorca, Ibiza, Benidorm or the Costa del Sol. Some of us don’t like to holiday amongst impoverished locals in 5* resorts when there is unimaginable poverty nearby. I’ve seen the rest of the world, I like the Mediterranean thanks very much.

Just to clarify, my reference to Benidorm was absolutely not a dig at anyone who enjoys going there on holiday. If you read the context in which I mentioned it, it was more me repeating what I’d heard other people say when they’re trying to minimise the reasons why people might be opposed to or unhappy about a travel ban.

@WouldBeGood

I can’t wait to go to Mallorca with the brainless lemmings 😂

I’d rather be there than with the smunts on here.

Same here. I bloody love Majorca.

@Stratfordplace

What’s wrong with Mallorca, Ibiza, Benidorm or the Costa del Sol. Some of us don’t like to holiday amongst impoverished locals in 5* resorts when there is unimaginable poverty nearby. I’ve seen the rest of the world, I like the Mediterranean thanks very much.

Well said.

I much prefer a 5* skiing resort in Aspen myself, rather than slumming it with fhe brainless lemmings of Majorca.

@Itsasin1981

I much prefer a 5* skiing resort in Aspen myself, rather than slumming it with fhe brainless lemmings of Majorca.

I’m gonna assume you’re being sarcastic as I genuinely can’t believe anyone would be so up front about being such an arrogant snob 😂

What I dont understand is why not close the borders? More cases will happen and hit our shores as the PM says but this could be avoided?

Feckless.

Hate it when people mock places like Benidorm, be thankful to be able to go on holiday at all, some never get to leave the Uk and would love to go to Benidorm

@Donotfeedthebears

I’m just glad I’ve already seen much of the world. I doubt that baby DD will ever be going abroad,

Of course she will! Do you seriously think we’re going to live like this for decades? 🙄

Perhaps that is why people are so aggrieved on here, because they will think it will be decades not a year or two, because the hysteria on here has been off the scale for what amounts to a week or two in the sun.

So what you’re saying is because your children want to see their families abroad it’s different to wanting to go on holiday yet some children in the UK can’t see their families either but they’re two independent things?

Yes it IS different.
In a few weeks time, you will be able to go and see your family in the U.K. wo any restrictions at all.
Those who haven’t done so during the last year, have done so out of CHOICE. They could have gone and see their parents/grand parents/children if they had chose to do so.

The holiday ban is about STOPPING people to go and see their family (they are not just Europeans either. Many brits have family/parents/children living in the EU for example). It’s taking the choice away from them.

So no that’s not the same at all to those who are in the U.K., haven’t seen their family but will soon have the opportunity to do so if they decide to go and do it.

what amounts to a week or two in the sun

You've not taken in anything at all of what other people have posted, have you? Still with the "two weeks in the sun" narrative.

@Itsalonghaul

Perhaps that is why people are so aggrieved on here, because they will think it will be decades not a year or two, because the hysteria on here has been off the scale for what amounts to a week or two in the sun.

Also because when it’s about seeing family, as you pointed out yourself, parenst/grand parents might well be old or have health issues which means that opportunities to see them and spend time with them is also decreasing.

It’s certainly in my mind with my parents who are in their 80s. In that case, 2 or 3 years is a long time.

Itsalonghaul it really isn’t hysteria just because we disagree with being unable to travel/holiday/leave the country.
Why should we just accept more restrictions on our freedom and Liberty. Viruses mutate, we may never get full control, then what?

On the other hand, if more freedoms to mix and move around the U.K. can be preserved by preventing foreign travel, then maybe this is acceptable for a time.

Better than having travel allowed and constant lockdowns because of new variants.

because the hysteria on here has been off the scale for what amounts to a week or two in the sun.
For some, it is a week or two in the sun.
For me, it is about seeing mum, who lost both her parents in the last few months, got a bad diagnosis herself and lost her job 6 months before retirement (her pension will be almost halved as a result). In a country which is, quite honestly, is probably in the last 50 in the world as a tourist destination.

Let's maybe accept that different situations of "travelling abroad" are different, shall we?

@MaxNormal

Between that and the mandatory vaccines for carers it's all going a bit North Korea. Still, as long as we're all safe.

Where is the info on mandatory vaccines for careers? I work in healthcare and have not heard of this?

@oldegg123

I've posted this before on many threads and seen lots of other people post similar and never get an actual reply.

What does the government have to gain by preventing people going on holidays abroad and keeping restrictions in place? The economy is tanked, encouraging people back to work, booking flights, out for lunches and drinks are what's needed to get things back on track. The government reluctance isn't some big conspiracy, it's because we're in the midst of pandemic which sadly won't adhere to human timescales no matter how fed up people are.

BJ has led to this shitshow with his constant overpromising and lack of leadership despite advice from experts.

I assume it's to minimise the chances of new variants 'washing up on our shores' as BJ said.

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccines-could-be-made-mandatory-for-care-workers-says-matt-hancock-12254182

Was leaked last night and confirmed this morning and there's a quite long and predictably bad-tempered thread on it here.

New variants can just as easily arise within the U.K. Isn’t the current thinking that the B.1.1.7 variant arose in a single, chronically infected person. It’s silly to think that we are doing to be able to prevent variants or somehow ‘keep them out’. It’s a virus, it mutates. We need to just accept that and get on with life.

Let me first say, I don't think you should be allowed to visit your second holiday home abroad.

Second, if you have family abroad - it would be nice but it's not a right to see them or for them to visit you. You made the decision to move to another country so if rules change for whatever reason you have to abide by them.

A few years back my DGF (Luxembourg born, grew up in Germany and moved to UK as a young man) couldn't return to Germany much (where his family lived) to see his family. This was after WW1 and before WW2. He certainly didn't return to visit Germany once the Nazis were on the rise and he only saw his DM and 2 DB's when they moved to UK (they had dual English/German nationality from their DF, if I recall correctly), part of his DM moving to UK was to look after her grandchild, my DM. They all had to rely on letters, phone calls and telegrams, no zoom calls then.

At the moment it'll have been a year and a half so far or 2 years where you won't be able to visit family abroad but after that, you will probably be able to do so.

I have one friend so far (Polish) who for various reasons has decided to move back home and to see/care for her DPs and a Spanish colleague of mine has temporarily moved to Spain to live with her DPs. Other colleagues left the UK to return to NZ/Australis to live and work but they may have chosen to do this anyway due to work. Another friend of mine who's French would love to go to France to see her DPs and family but she told me it's too expensive and with the rules also not possible yet.

Holidays abroad of course shouldn't be allowed and I'm not going on one - didn't do so last year either.

As Nith says if you choose to live in a different country then you limit your own right to family life and that should not trump the right to life of everyone else.

As Nith says if you choose to live in a different country then you limit your own right to family life and that should not trump the right to life of everyone else.

Well I hope that Nith and Clever Catty don't ever have anyone they they care about or love in another country and you will never know if you will see them again :... There is one thing popping over the channel to drink wine and lie on a beach .
.Another is visiting family who you have been denied of seeing as you and they have been respecting the rules, waiting and hoping for this to end.
You cannot and should not bunch the 2 together .