Holidays abroad are illegal from Monday

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9389921/Ban-leaving-UK-amid-new-coronavirus-laws-force-week.html

Along with any other unnecessary travel abroad.

jess what has your post got to do with travelling overseas?

I’m just glad I’ve already seen much of the world. I doubt that baby DD will ever be going abroad,

Good.

Maybe baby dd doesn't want to travel around the world to countries that are in lockdown with overflowing hospitals, and unvaccinated people.

Maybe it is safer for baby dd to stay in her own country, where she is safe and we have the healthcare infrastructure to take care of her should she catch covid.

@Itsalonghaul

Maybe baby dd doesn't want to travel around the world to countries that are in lockdown with overflowing hospitals, and unvaccinated people.

Maybe it is safer for baby dd to stay in her own country, where she is safe and we have the healthcare infrastructure to take care of her should she catch covid.

What...forever?

If you look at the new regulations there is a care exemption for travelling overseas. They say "9. Where it is reasonably necessary for P to leave the United Kingdom—
(a) to provide care and assistance to a vulnerable person"

You can define a vulnerable person any way you like, but I would say anyone over the age of 75 is vulnerable, and it also depends on health. A 30 year old with mental health problems or having a difficult pregnancy would also be vulnerable (and there is also a specific exemption for expectant mothers).

What you still can't do is visit family or friends overseas just for fun

We are talking about forever are we!

Keeping babies at home in a pandemic might be a fairly sensible move. She has eighty years plus to 'see the world' when she is a little bigger and stronger!

*NOT

People don't seem to understand that unless the country gets back on its feet there will be no nhs to protect . Wheres the money coming from when unemployment rates are rocketing in the travel and tourism sector .
Tourists coming in also bring money . Of course right now there is a travel ban , but we need to be looking towards opening up in the future.
Just another thing for the joy suckers to get involved with . Bet they were miserable before covid too .

@WiganNorthWest

All this talk of “just a holiday” and selfishness shows a real lack of empathy. Just because you have no links with other countries and are happy to stay in the UK doesn’t make you a better person (and isn’t necessarily safer). People who work in the travel industry and those with families/people whose home is abroad have every right to be upset about not being able to visit their home or family or work for years, when there are ways to allow safe travel.

This

If I was a betting woman, I’d say DeSantis will be president someday based upon his handling of this situation.

If he ever is, there would be one more place that I wouldn't wish to travel to anyway: the USA. Just as I wasn't that keen on going when Trump was president.

Boris Johnson (whom I can't stand) is a bloody saint compared with current American Republicans!

@Itsalonghaul

jess what has your post got to do with travelling overseas?

^^‘Some people no longer give a flying f* about the pandemic, the dying, the suffering. None of it. They are done. Unless it directly affects them (or their family) they will continue to press for holidays and all the rest to serve their own needs. We do definitely have a new division in this country, and it is the selfish me me me on one side, and those with compassion on the other.‘

^ It’s in response to this attitude in general. I’m so tired of it 🙄

But in regards to travel, what about the thousands of people working in the travel industry? Many who undoubtedly will find themselves unemployed as a result of a ban on foreign travel? Obviously just selfish ‘me me me’ people who obviously don’t give a shit about the dying and the sick.

Now i’m not necessarily saying I think the restrictions on travel are unjustified but let’s not just assume that anyone who is upset or annoyed about it are only pissed off because they can’t get their week away to Benidorm.

@FinallyHere

What part of the 'stay at home' message is confusing for you?

Ah. Daily Fail reader, ok, as you were.

Is there any need for that?

STOP with the 'Benidorm' 'Costa del sol' narrative.
You know what you're doing, and it just makes you look snobby and up yourselves.
Seriously, shut up.

Drama llama central. Infants will get to travel, this isn't forever. Although if said infant gives more fucks about the climate than her parents generation, she may want to limit her flying and driving.

@C8H10N4O2

You can still travel abroad for funerals, of course

And to visit your holiday home. Apparently second home owners don't transmit viruses.

Allowing the "Stanley Johnson" exception in the legislation rather gives the lie to virus spread being the priority or the fiction that we are "all in it together".

Yes, this loophole is appalling. I'm hoping the press outcry this morning forces the gov to close this loophole.

If there aren’t any airlines left, there won’t be any travel. I expect cruise lines will go under and I’ll lose my shares.

And as for not travelling by car - well, sales of new petrol/hybrid cars will be banned from 2030. Electric cars will be very expensive so most people won’t be driving.

@GoodbyeRosie

There are some mad hatters in here aren't there?

' Our freedoms' and ' Our rights' - you are making rubbish up because you want to go to Mallorca.

Go on then, you go on your precious holiday abroad, spread covid around, see the hospitals bulge and clap on your doorstep whilst changing your facebook photo to an ' I love the NHS' one.

Then complain about the pubs being shut still - whilst moaning you can't abroad again .

North Korea? don't be so willfully ignorant.

You are the one sounding like a "mad hatter" - in fact you sound unhinged and ready to start foaming at the mouth.

This is nothing to do with Mallorca or beach holidays. If you could just pause and use your brain for 2 seconds, you might realise that people have been isolated from family in other countries for a long time now. This ban is prolonging that beyond what we were promised. There is no end in sight.

@utilisateur

surely this travel ban is in the wrong direction to prevent new variants getting in

Other countries understand outbound and inbound correctly. They have mandatory quarantine for all inbound travellers. This may require reducing the number of open airports and the numbers of non-essential travellers coming into the country (by means of cost, the deterrent of the quarantine itself).

Only restricting inbound travellers will help the UK avoid new variants.

I like how ‘other countries’ are just abroad and in abroad, they do things all the same 🙄

@Itsalonghaul

numble Yes I do think the vaccinations will work, but given we are only just getting the second doses into the vulnerable and elderly, we are a long way off. A very long way off. They won't be fully protected for at least another three weeks, and we still have half the population to get through.

I do think vaccines will help, but it will take time, and the summer time frame is looking distinctly tricky for travelling. Had Europe been able to vaccinate at the same pace, maybe we could have some arrangements in place, but as it stands now I think it is unlikely.

One vaccine provides protection in a significant proportion of people (over 70% iirc). The second dose increases that slightly and should offer longer term protection. We’ve vaccinated the groups that account for around 90% of the hospitalisations/deaths. So no, it’s not a long way off. We’ve done what we had to do to take the strain of the nhs. It’s time to open up and move on. The virus will mutate, regardless. If it mutates to something less virulent that would actually be a good thing.

It’s a sensible measure. We’re doing really well with our vaccination programme, we’ve just come out of a second wave, people want to experience some “normal” freedoms in the UK as a first priority. Many other countries are behind us in their vaccination rollouts, they aren’t ready to welcome overseas holiday-makers.

The WHO initially said the pandemic will last about 2 years. Given that, what would people prefer? Allowing international holidays (most likely to countries that don’t want us yet anyway,) and risk increasing transition/bringing new variants back here, or halting foreign holidays temporarily to allow us to get a degree of normality back in everyday life under safe conditions?

It’s a no-brainer

Itsalonghaul presumably you purchase travel insurance before you take baby DD abroad.

Anyone well off wont worry about the 5k fine and just go anyway
Good way to make money same with the house partys and events

What’s wrong with Mallorca, Ibiza, Benidorm or the Costa del Sol.
Some of us don’t like to holiday amongst impoverished locals in 5* resorts when there is unimaginable poverty nearby. I’ve seen the rest of the world, I like the Mediterranean thanks very much.

Trapping people in their own country, but hey, it's safe.

It's not for work, it's to stop the brainless lemmings dashing off to Spain and Greece the second the schools get out for Easter and igniting another wave when they come back. If we really cannot use common sense on our own, then yes, the government has to do it for us. And if they'd been a bit more proactive about it sooner we might be further out of this thing.