EU threatening to cut off supply of vaccines to UK

[Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady]

Because they've not got enough apparently (despite the fact that they've got a shit load of AZ stockpiled because they've mostly stopped using it)

This is really starting to piss me off now, and has someone who is due 2nd Pfizer jab in 8 weeks in starting to worry I won't get it!

They're threatening to stop supply to USA too.

Wankers

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ursula-von-der-leyen-threatens-cut-off-covid-exports-uk-b924652.html

I didn't vote to leave the EU but I would now.

I spoke to an Irish friend in C. Cork earlier - she and her dh are both over 70. Their GP has apparently had AZ supplies for a couple of weeks, but even if Ireland hadn’t ‘paused’ the AZ, they couldn’t have had jabs anyway, because he told them he had no needles and had been unable to get any.

What a disgrace.

The EU may have come in 3 months later and put large orders in once others countries and large organisations had footed the bill to get a vaccine to were it was a possible viable option.

But this isn't what happened. You just made it up.

Re Covax
Well done Germany, and in proportion to population of 83.02 million. So it would be more than UK, as the point of covax is the country pays X amount per person.

I have relatives in spain who are 68 and 60. No hint of a vaccination and no clue as to when they will be getting one! They also dont know anyone who has had one yet either.

@pabloescobarselasticband I also have an older family member in Spain and she hasn’t heard a peep

Haffiana Well yes it did.

EU at risk money was slightly less then the UK and minuscule in comparison to US.

I maybe sometime routing round to find the article again.

I don't understand people being so keen to defend the eu when they have behaved awfully. That is politics in itself.

Haffiana - you are a little uninformed on the issue if you think that isn't what happened.

@TheHoneyBadger

I don't understand people being so keen to defend the eu when they have behaved awfully. That is politics in itself.

And I don't understand why people have to resort to outright lies and exaggerations in order to try to demonise another country or countries. It isn't necessary. The facts can speak for themselves.

I do not 'defend' the EU. It isn't a fucking football team. You say they have behaved awfully. What are the actual facts that support that?

Haffiana
Sorry it is a propaganda piece from uk press, but the facts are stated in it.

Rasmus Hansen, the chief executive of Airfinity, a data analytics company working in the life sciences sector, said the EU had failed to invest as it should have in scaling-up production plants

The EU had spent just €1.78bn in “risk money”, cash handed to pharmaceutical companies without any guarantee of a return, compared to €1.9bn by the UK and €9bn by the US, he said. There were consequences

www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jan/29/we-had-to-go-it-alone-how-the-uk-got-ahead-in-the-covid-vaccine-race

Given the population of the EU you would have thought their investment in vaccines would be more online with the US rather the the UK.

@Marmaladeagain

Haffiana - you are a little uninformed on the issue if you think that isn't what happened.

Sorry - what do I think exactly? What am I misinformed about? What actually happened?

@NewYearNewTwatName

You know, in a few months time, the amount that the UK spent on vaccines will probably bring down this government. The EU problems that it faces right now are not due to it spending too little.

The UK's decision to go against manufacturer guidelines and leave a 3 month gap between doses will make this a major issue for them.

Haffiana

Ahhh deflection now.

Its problems are due spending to little, and many other mistakes.

But the amount spent was what you argued about so I brought you the facts, but now that's irrelevant, I see......

Now if you want to talk about the repercussions of money spent, bad decisions, death toll and how deep a recession uk will be in and for how long, then please go a head and start a new thread, I'll be right over to tell you what I think of the UK Gov and it handling of the virus since last January.

@Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady so have I gotten this right? The U.K. exports zero vacccines yet you expect the Eu to export vaccines to the U.K.?

Oh and another one...... shivawn

Here I was thinking this was a thread about what the EU are to but suddenly it's all about how bad the uk are and this and that.

political much?

EpiphanySoul1

No you haven't got it right.

If you RTFT you will see it's nothing as simple.

@NewYearNewTwatName but you have no issue with the U.K. not exporting any vaccines? Double standards...

EpiphanySoul1

sigh
RTFFT

@NewYearNewTwatName

Haffiana

Ahhh deflection now.

Its problems are due spending to little, and many other mistakes.

But the amount spent was what you argued about so I brought you the facts, but now that's irrelevant, I see......

Now if you want to talk about the repercussions of money spent, bad decisions, death toll and how deep a recession uk will be in and for how long, then please go a head and start a new thread, I'll be right over to tell you what I think of the UK Gov and it handling of the virus since last January.

No. Your figures are incorrect for a start.

The EU have invested 2.7 billion euros.

Can you explain how the EU's problems are due to it spending too little?

@NewYearNewTwatName I have read the full thread. I’ve asked you why you have no issue with the U.K. refusing to export any vaccines and instead using them to vaccinate their own population including now those who are low risk while other countries have their vulnerable still to vaccinate?

@shivawn

The UK's decision to go against manufacturer guidelines and leave a 3 month gap between doses will make this a major issue for them.

No, it won't.

Oxford coronavirus vaccine shows sustained protection of 76% during the 3-month interval until the second dose

www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-02-02-oxford-coronavirus-vaccine-shows-sustained-protection-76-during-3-month-interval

Haffiana

it's ok, you keep shouting about EU investing 2.7b

if you don't understand by now you probably never will.

[quote EpiphanySoul1]@Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady so have I gotten this right? The U.K. exports zero vacccines yet you expect the Eu to export vaccines to the U.K.?[/quote]
The EU doesn't own the vaccines made in the EU. They are the property of the companies that make them.