EU threatening to cut off supply of vaccines to UK

[Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady]

Because they've not got enough apparently (despite the fact that they've got a shit load of AZ stockpiled because they've mostly stopped using it)

This is really starting to piss me off now, and has someone who is due 2nd Pfizer jab in 8 weeks in starting to worry I won't get it!

They're threatening to stop supply to USA too.

Wankers

www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/ursula-von-der-leyen-threatens-cut-off-covid-exports-uk-b924652.html

@TheHoneyBadger

This will make businesses think twice about being based in the eu surely? They're threatening to stop private business exporting their products to countries that have bought and paid for them in advance?

I wouldn't want to be based somewhere that threatened such things.

Eu is looking increasingly appalling throughout

Absolutely. Let's hope the UK is seen as a good alternative location!

Gosh, some posters DO like to get all huffy.

Reading into the whole item.....they are discussing restricting export, NOT cutting anyone off of anything.

Is this yet another example where looking at stuff through a brexit prism leads to a generation of ignorance and manipulation?

@GreyHairedGardener

Europeans are coming across as total inept twats. For example, Macron is a class A fucking twat.

Well I've certainly thought that for a while. We might even still be in the EU and have Theresa May as PM if it weren't for his posturing only giving us a 6 month extension rather than the 12 month extension to leaving the EU that was asked for. Although in hindsight, as far as vaccines are concerned, that may be a good thing. Not so great for everything else, though.

For the EU citizens in the UK, aren't you a tiny weeny bit p*ed off that the UvDL is happy to cut off supplies to you just because you live here and not in an EU/EEA member state?

Sorry restrict not cut off.

It's not about one article - it's about the continual mood music of undermining vaccines which has been going on since the beginning of the year from January. Despite the vaccine being approved their - individual country's leaders were saying publicly they disagreed and is "quasi effective".

Forget Brexit prism, this is appalling behaviour in a pandemic to undermine confidence.

I don't want to live in lockdown forever, and it's because of this that I believe more caution re foreign travel is important. I think it was a mistake to allow foreign travel last summer and that maybe our autumn figures would have been better if we'd taken a slower approach until the majority of our population had been vaccinated.
Given the cases within Europe are on the rise, with some countries considering another lockdown and the slow vaccine rollout within Europe, which countries are safer to visit than remaining in the UK, right now?
We could crack on here with vaccination, open up our own tourism and hospitality industries and kick start our own economy by keeping holidays UK based this Summer. Hopefully the EU will sort itself out and we can have foreign travel later on in the year.

Just on the news that supplies will be short for at least a month !

In the Uk I mean

This will make businesses think twice about being based in the eu surely? They're threatening to stop private business exporting their products to countries that have bought and paid for them in advance?

I wouldn't want to be based somewhere that threatened such things.

Eu is looking increasingly appalling throughout

Quite.

@Marmaladeagain

It's not about one article - it's about the continual mood music of undermining vaccines which has been going on since the beginning of the year from January. Despite the vaccine being approved their - individual country's leaders were saying publicly they disagreed and is "quasi effective".

Forget Brexit prism, this is appalling behaviour in a pandemic to undermine confidence.

I agree. It’s a lot and not just our take. Vaccine task forces in eg Germany are having to work on overcoming low take up.

@thereisonlyoneofme

Just on the news that supplies will be short for at least a month !

But not because of the EU, and it won' impact the target to get all adults done by July.

Vaccine supply was always going to fluctuate, we were told this at the beginning.

NRTFT. In the US it's standard practice to not give the first dose until the second dose is in storage. We (the US) are not importing any material quantities of vaccine from the the EU but are exporting materials to them.

It's going to get really ugly if they commandeer US property, like the Pfizer plant in Belgium.

My advice to the UK would be to approve the Moderna vaccine, see if Pfizer can send you more doses from the US, and get ready to review the Novavax vaccine application ASAP. It's in late-stage clinical trials here now and they anticipate US FDA EUA in April. So far the data looks very good, with 89% efficacy shown in interim trials:

www.biospace.com/article/novavax-ceo-anticipates-potential-u-s-eua-for-covid-19-vaccine-by-may/

The EU has shown a remarkable talent for fucking this up from day one.

Sorry, I misspoke. They're expecting the EUA in May.

@MythicalBiologicalFennel

Also when did people come 'remainders' as opposed to 'remainers'

I've noticed it seems to be the mark of a certain kind of poster IYSWIM

It's autocorrect. If I type remainers in my phone it autocorrects to remainders. (Because remainers isn't actually a real word)

Every time.
It's not deliberate!

Poshme, it’s a certain type of poster, if you see what I mean, that can’t figure out remainers isn’t actually a word

So it autocorrects, obviously!

Funny as you was trying to say they are thick but actually it’s you who is stupid

😂

The Evening Standard used to be edited by a former Tory Chancellor, and is now edited by the sister in law of a former Prime Minister.

Wholly impartial of course.

MythicalBiologicalFennel - picking posters up on spelling and then saying "certain type" - you're an absolute charmer.

Have you heard of phones, auto correct and some posters may actually have issues with spelling. Nice behaviour.

Yes, more lumpy supply!

I read somewhere last week how the US doesn't book jab 1 until jab 2 is in the store. It is one logical way to do it.

Whatever way you look at it there's so much smoke puffing going on we may never know where the truth lies!

oh yes, indeed - sounds very stoooopid - don't worry I don't need your help with the spelling, just for emphasis etc.

@BigBamboo

We’ve vaccinated 50% of our adults and we just received a shit load more vaccines from India. We are not low on supply. Let’s get our heads down and crack on. Let the EU fight amongst themselves whilst we push on and enjoy our summer. Once we are at our goal we can then help others. I don’t think the EU’s threats have any meat on their bones. It’s just to deflect attention from their farce.

Spot on

Oh yes, that's true - all a spectacle for distraction.

However, words can be dangerous - remember this in international politics, not home audiences only - the world's watching and they're revealing for too much. Even saying they may potentially disregard previous terms of contracts etc is damaging. Not something a government should be saying with the world watching.

The US made it clear months ago that they were putting in place protectionist policies around the vaccines, they aren't exporting till their own population is vaccinated. We have a similar agreement with AZ (and presumably the other UK manufacturers). Both the US and the UK have thrown money at all the vaccine manufacturers to support the ramping up of production and have not invoked their emergency powers on a large scale. The EU has not supported their manufacturers and are suffering now. But it would be incredibly destructive of the EU to invoke Article 122 so I can't see them doing it. It would be very good for Switzerland and the UK though, both positioned physically in Europe but not subjected to these EU tantrums. They are looking very attractive for new fill finish facilities now (fill finish being a current bottle neck).

@Magnificentmug12

Poshme, it’s a certain type of poster, if you see what I mean, that can’t figure out remainers isn’t actually a word

So it autocorrects, obviously!

Funny as you was trying to say they are thick but actually it’s you who is stupid

😂

Eh? I didn't say they were thick.

I was just saying that I didn't think anyone was intentionally using remainders instead of remainers.

Why does that make me stupid?

The EU has not supported their manufacturers and are suffering now.

Fact Check: The EU invested 2.7 Billion euros in covid vaccine development and manufacture.

@JaninaDuszejko

The US made it clear months ago that they were putting in place protectionist policies around the vaccines, they aren't exporting till their own population is vaccinated. We have a similar agreement with AZ (and presumably the other UK manufacturers). Both the US and the UK have thrown money at all the vaccine manufacturers to support the ramping up of production and have not invoked their emergency powers on a large scale. The EU has not supported their manufacturers and are suffering now. But it would be incredibly destructive of the EU to invoke Article 122 so I can't see them doing it. It would be very good for Switzerland and the UK though, both positioned physically in Europe but not subjected to these EU tantrums. They are looking very attractive for new fill finish facilities now (fill finish being a current bottle neck).

The only thing of interest tonight's press conference was Hancock acknowledged and I read it before few article's. UK invested and supported the eu factories and supply chain as well as our own. So the fact we got 9million i assume from az was not unlawful.

www.politico.eu/article/the-key-differences-between-the-eu-and-uk-astrazeneca-contracts/

The issue with todays press conference and vaccine slow down due to supply.
Means if eu do ban our orders we screwed.
Feeling bit down in 40s as was meant get vaccine april/may now its July.
There no way they should open up international travel so over 50s can go away and potentially bring virus back.