Household gatherings

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As we trail towards the next deadline, truthfully are people sticking absolutely to the no household mixing etc? Or are people sneaking round to each other's for meals etc

I am sticking to it but only because my husband keeps me on the straight and narrow which is obviously the right thing to do. Just wondered?

Stuck to every rule while heartedly for the last year, until my mum died suddenly and unexpectedly 2 weeks ago and my world fell apart. Since then my sisters and nan have come for dinner a few times (I live in parents house with dad).

@tigerbread20

Stuck to every rule while heartedly for the last year, until my mum died suddenly and unexpectedly 2 weeks ago and my world fell apart. Since then my sisters and nan have come for dinner a few times (I live in parents house with dad).

I'm so sorry for your loss and I'm glad you had support from family.

My parents can’t wait to cuddle my baby when she’s born next month! And me!

I know seven people who have died from covid. I am not breaking the rules no matter what everyone else is doing and what pressure some people in my family try to put me under. This will never end if people think they can do what they like

I’m so fed up of people talking about taking responsibility for our own health and risk. That’s all very well but when I have to send my primary aged child into school each day to mix with children of families who are doing exactly as they please, that puts my family at risk. It’s hard I get that but I’ve followed the rules and I’ll continue to do so as I don’t want to be responsible for passing it to someone who becomes seriously ill or dies. Do people who are doing as they please really think that those of us who are following the rules don’t also want to see our friends and families. I’m desperate to see mine but I won’t put my parents at risk. I’d rather be allowed to educate my child at home while keeping her school place and form a bubble with my parents but I’d be fined so I can’t take responsibility for my own risk. It may be harsh but if only it were those who break all the rules and don’t care about others who shouldered the deaths and serious illness of family and friends and those of us who have taken it seriously were protected. However that’s not the case and that’s why it’s selfish to do as you please.

The people saying no household mixing, will you be happy to see people at 00:01 on the day that lockdown ends?

@Rainbowsandstorms

I’m so fed up of people talking about taking responsibility for our own health and risk. That’s all very well but when I have to send my primary aged child into school each day to mix with children of families who are doing exactly as they please, that puts my family at risk. It’s hard I get that but I’ve followed the rules and I’ll continue to do so as I don’t want to be responsible for passing it to someone who becomes seriously ill or dies. Do people who are doing as they please really think that those of us who are following the rules don’t also want to see our friends and families. I’m desperate to see mine but I won’t put my parents at risk. I’d rather be allowed to educate my child at home while keeping her school place and form a bubble with my parents but I’d be fined so I can’t take responsibility for my own risk. It may be harsh but if only it were those who break all the rules and don’t care about others who shouldered the deaths and serious illness of family and friends and those of us who have taken it seriously were protected. However that’s not the case and that’s why it’s selfish to do as you please.

You just summed up selfishness - you are doing this for your parents, you didn’t say you are following the rule for some random unknown strangers parents. Well sorry I don’t have parents alive anyway, I have two children who I don’t want to isolate! You want someone to lose their income and their home for your parents - everyone is being selfish because everyone is experiencing different issues.

@Donotfeedthebears

The people saying no household mixing, will you be happy to see people at 00:01 on the day that lockdown ends?

In our case it will be approx 2 weeks after our relatives have had their 2nd vaccinations as they don't want to risk mixing before then.

Would it not be safer to continue to avoid social mixing for the foreseeable future? The vaccinations aren’t a magic bullet.

Not being sarcastic but if people are that worried why not avoid seeing family and friends for another year or so? I won’t be doing that but people do have the choice to continue to limit contact, WFH (if possible), wear masks etc. It’s not as though you have to return to “normal” when lockdown ends.

And this is why since the kids have gone back to school the a&e where I work has been overwhelmed again, not with Covid cases but with accidents, falls etc. People are now going out and about as they used to because they’ve had their vaccine, the weathers nicer and they’re fed up of being stuck indoors. Do I blame them? No not really but I sincerely hope we don’t get another wave and go into lockdown again because I’m not sure many would comply.

Absolutely not. The rules are there for a reason.

@Donotfeedthebears I'll do it carefully outdoors when it's legal. I'm not going to suddenly forget the virus is there

Are people more prone to accidents and falls through deconditioning effects of staying home over the last year?

[quote Realitea]@Donotfeedthebears I'll do it carefully outdoors when it's legal. I'm not going to suddenly forget the virus is there[/quote]
But we keep being told that the virus will be with us forever. I’m genuinely interested in when people will hug family and friends and see them indoors, there will always be that risk.

Personally I’m happy to risk it, I’ve seen my parents and hugged them before the last lockdown. They’ll be in my childcare bubble when the baby is born next month.

I get why people are more reluctant to meet indoors etc. I understand that many Mumsnetters have had family and friends die and they worry for the CV. But when will it ever be safe to mix again?

I've honestly not been in another person's house since last autumn (I think - whenever it was allowed) and no one has been in mine except for Xmas day (when it was allowed). I'm not vulnerable, I'm not particularly scared of getting covid (though I'd obviously rather not), I'm still working (key worker, can't work from home). But I'm still trying to minimise the risk I pose to others.

I'm generally of the opinion that I'm not bothered what decisions others make - I feel like the reason uk has been so badly affected is down to failings of our government, not a family going to see their mum - but some of the posts on here have rubbed me up the wrong way, talking about the massive sacrifices they've made "for the greater good" by not socialising indoors for a year and that they've had enough of it now. It seems a bit entitled when there people who've made serious sacrifices for the greater good. Medical staff who've kept away from their families, people who have lost loved ones and then not been able to have a proper goodbye or funeral. Good job the medical profession, or the teaching profession havent just thrown their hands up and declared they're fed up of working for the greater good.

No breaking rules here. Spending all day with 30 children only to hear about their after school and weekend visits to family and friends while I haven't yet met my granddaughter who was born in January .
This time has changed my view of people who interact in my life immeasurably.

Yes I have stuck to it entirely except for 2 funerals where the rules were frankly inhumane.

I have a terminally ill mum who lives 5 hours away who I haven't seen for over a year.

Even if I drove 5 hrs there and back to meet her outside she won't as I am a risk to her due to exposure due to my job. I am desperate for this thing to be under control.

I have now had my vaccine and have 2 weeks holiday after Easter. Really hoping that if I fully isolate for 10 days she will then feel comfortable with seeing me.

That will only happen if things are under control and others are following the rules too.
This thread has depressed me enormously.

@EskSmith

Yes I have stuck to it entirely except for 2 funerals where the rules were frankly inhumane.

I have a terminally ill mum who lives 5 hours away who I haven't seen for over a year.

Even if I drove 5 hrs there and back to meet her outside she won't as I am a risk to her due to exposure due to my job. I am desperate for this thing to be under control.

I have now had my vaccine and have 2 weeks holiday after Easter. Really hoping that if I fully isolate for 10 days she will then feel comfortable with seeing me.

That will only happen if things are under control and others are following the rules too.
This thread has depressed me enormously.

Why are funerals an exemption to the rules in your opinion? People could be going through all sorts of things that warrant them needing to be around people.

@User133847

Absolutely not. The rules are there for a reason.

If that was the case the rules would be the same on every country- the rules are made up by our government. We live in a country where anyone can fly in and yet the citizens of this country cannot see their family- and everyone is ok with this....

@User133847

Absolutely not. The rules are there for a reason.

What was the reason behind the "rule of 6"? Why wasn't it 5 or 7? Does covid have some sort of phobia about even numbers?

The day before my baby is born at 23:59, it’s too dangerous for my parents to come round. But from 00:01 on her birth date they can form a bubble. 🤷🏻‍♀️

@Donotfeedthebears

The day before my baby is born at 23:59, it’s too dangerous for my parents to come round. But from 00:01 on her birth date they can form a bubble. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Because it’s a support bubble. The danger of disease hasn’t changed. It’s just the same. But the need for support increases.

Yes I understand that. But I still think it’s daft. It’s either safe or it isn’t.

@Donotfeedthebears

Yes I understand that. But I still think it’s daft. It’s either safe or it isn’t.

But it’s not “either safe or it isn’t”. Nothing in life is black and white like that, and nor is this. I suppose the danger from covid increases in the support bubble. But the danger from poor mental health or stress or postnatal depression or domestic abuse etc decreases.

Went to sil’s the other night for a takeaway, my brother popped round the other day and came in for a brew rather than stand outside.

We’ve all had it, and now mostly had first jabs, and working at home so seeing no one else.

I know people will say ‘that’s not how it works’ but I’m beyond it all now, it’s exhausting, I need some semblance of normality before I lose my mind