Cyprus - from May those with 2 vaccinations can holiday freely

[VaVaGloom]

Knew it would end up a two tier travel system!

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/cyprus-to-allow-british-tourists-from-may-1-b922274.html

More sitting at home and sucking it up for the rest of us!

If you are in support of schools going back, shops opening back up, pubs and restaurants opening, you are in support of travel? It’s business - it will help save some UK jobs, surely? It’s part of getting back to normal? Or is it the case you only want the bits open that you intend to use?

I just want the bits that open to remain open! I hope the scientists / vaccines & politicians and their policies allow for that to be the case. In the short/medium term any businesses that potentially jeopardise full and sustained domestic reopening should receive Government support.

Hopefully by May we will have a better understanding of the degree to which being vaccinated prevents transmission before some of the restrictions on international travel are lifted.

From the amount of press this had received I am assuming it was announced after conversations with the UK as it was all over the tv. We need to start opening travel corridors again, in a controlled manner, and to first open to vaccinated people is a good start.

If there is no end in sight the airlines will be decimated.

@roses2

From the amount of press this had received I am assuming it was announced after conversations with the UK as it was all over the tv. We need to start opening travel corridors again, in a controlled manner, and to first open to vaccinated people is a good start.

If there is no end in sight the airlines will be decimated.

Trouble with travel "corridors" is that travellers are still mixing freely within the airport, i.e. check in desk queues, security queues, passport control queues, shops/cafes/bars, baggage reclaim, etc. so people in "safe" corridors are coming into close contact with people from "unsafe" countries.

I'd like to see airports segregating passengers if we go back to "corridors". I.e. Terminal 1 for "safe" countries where quarantine not required, terminal 2 for others where quarantine is required. If it's going to be longer term, i.e. a year or two before covid is under control in all countries, then we need a long term solution in our airports.

I'd like to see airports segregating passengers if we go back to "corridors". I.e. Terminal 1 for "safe" countries where quarantine not required, terminal 2 for others where quarantine is required.

Looks good on paper but that would only be of value if you could ensure everybody on the aircraft arriving at your Terminal 1 had a recent travel history that originated in a "safe" country.

Problems start once you consider the flights into the UK who, in addition to the "safe" passengers, could also be carrying passengers who before boarding the Uk bound flight started their travels in a country not on any UK "safe" list.

Alot of airports, most regional ones only have 1 terminal.

@notimagain

I'd like to see airports segregating passengers if we go back to "corridors". I.e. Terminal 1 for "safe" countries where quarantine not required, terminal 2 for others where quarantine is required.

Looks good on paper but that would only be of value if you could ensure everybody on the aircraft arriving at your Terminal 1 had a recent travel history that originated in a "safe" country.

Problems start once you consider the flights into the UK who, in addition to the "safe" passengers, could also be carrying passengers who before boarding the Uk bound flight started their travels in a country not on any UK "safe" list.

If the authorities can't control that, then the entire "travel corridor" idea is fundamentally flawed and unworkable and "safe"/"unsafe" country lists are completely meaningless.

@DitchedBitch

Alot of airports, most regional ones only have 1 terminal.

Small regional airports are unlikely to have much, if anything, in the way of long haul flights to other continents. They're usually mostly to European cities and tourist resorts. So will be mostly flights to "safe" countries anyway once the vaccine works its magic throughout Europe in the next few months. If they dont have 2 terminals, then the dont do flights to countries not on the safe list.

@Kazzyhoward

Rubbish. They might not have direct flights to red list destinations but many smaller regional airports mostly run flights to European hubs, notably Amsterdam, which then connect to flights pretty much everywhere.
So a flight coming into a small airport from Amsterdam or Paris or Frankfurt will be loaded with passengers coming from places other than Holland/France/Germany.
Perhaps they could be somewhat segregated at some airports, but they would be on the same planes.

[quote Frazzled2207]@Kazzyhoward

Rubbish. They might not have direct flights to red list destinations but many smaller regional airports mostly run flights to European hubs, notably Amsterdam, which then connect to flights pretty much everywhere.
So a flight coming into a small airport from Amsterdam or Paris or Frankfurt will be loaded with passengers coming from places other than Holland/France/Germany.
Perhaps they could be somewhat segregated at some airports, but they would be on the same planes.[/quote]
Until Covid is controlled throughout the World, then the various governments are going to have to come up with a plan to control people using hubs, otherwise the idea of travel corridors, green/red countries etc will prove useless.

many smaller regional airports mostly run flights to European hubs, notably Amsterdam, which then connect to flights pretty much everywhere, So a flight coming into a small airport from Amsterdam or Paris or Frankfurt will be loaded with passengers coming from places other than Holland/France/Germany.

Exactly...

I'm not sure what sort of segregation people think is actually feasible in the real world, short of having flights for British residents only, to and from airports/destinations/resorts that agree to ring fence themselves from the rest of the world and agree to ban connecting passengers..good luck with that.

@notimagain
.....exactly - not feasible for anyone or any country.
The current system is not foolproof at all but regardless of whether you came on a direct or indirect flight if you come from a red country you are in hotel quarantine.
Heard of a couple who tried to play the system coming from Dubai and overnighting in Frankfurt. They got caught out and fined £10k each. A bit steep if you ask me but still.