Cyprus - from May those with 2 vaccinations can holiday freely

[VaVaGloom]

Knew it would end up a two tier travel system!

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/cyprus-to-allow-british-tourists-from-may-1-b922274.html

More sitting at home and sucking it up for the rest of us!

Also some countries take proof of antibodies to let you get in

@SakuraEdenSwan1

Cyprus and all county's trying to impose this will soon beg people to come when the holiday makers refuse to holiday there. You do not need to prove anything, this is outrageous and I m shocked that we all just sit back and take so much shit and do nothing about it.

Blackmail and coercive control is illegal unless you are a government who freely do it to their citizens and get away with it.

Tourist countries who opened up too quickly and took too few precautions ended up locking down again thus undoing the benefit of opening up in the first place.

Removing restrictions slowly and carefully is the answer so that this time, finally, it will be permanent. Far better to have a lasting re-opening than all this open/closed/open nonsense that does more harm than good to the businesses/economy.

@SakuraEdenSwan1

Cyprus and all county's trying to impose this will soon beg people to come when the holiday makers refuse to holiday there. You do not need to prove anything, this is outrageous and I m shocked that we all just sit back and take so much shit and do nothing about it.

Blackmail and coercive control is illegal unless you are a government who freely do it to their citizens and get away with it.

Re "begging", I think the opposite. I'll be far more inclined to go to a country with controls over who is allowed in the country, and with low infection rates, than go to an "open" country where it's a free for all in terms of who they let in etc.

@frozendaisy

I am so pissed off about this. I have been relatively ok about "things for the greater good of society" up until this.

So the kids will be in masks in schools, no practical lessons, whilst some seniors are sipping beer on a Cyprus beach?

So fucking unfair.

I am proper pissed off.

Really if this goes ahead never again should the young be curved to protect the old. All in this together, bollocks.

Yep been ok until this.
But it might not happen might just be media stirring so trying to keep a happy disposition.

I get the tourist industry needs money from somewhere, anyone, it's just the timing. Families will not have parents double vaccinated until end of summer holidays, at the earliest.

Aaaaarrrrhhhh..................

I do get your point totally but 'seniors' ??? The 50 + are being vaccinated now. Are they senior ?

I'd like it if the UK goverment did a similar thing tbh.

No-one to arrive here from anywhere without being vaccinated or a positive anti body test before flying. I can dream!

should we jeopardise UK society opening up so some older people can have a week in the sun

I think the schools going back in their millions, unvaccinated and with barely any SD in classrooms will have far far more of an impact than vaccinated people traveling.

Seems like Portugal (and I presume most European countries) will open their doors to the uk without quarantine restrictions from may on

It’s ridiculous. It’s well known you can catch covid despite being vaccinated. A negative test would be much safer.

Yes, think of all the variants they can bring back!!

@likeamillpond

So the kids will be in masks in schools, no practical lessons, whilst some seniors are sipping beer on a Cyprus beach? So fucking unfair

I agree.
And I'm an oldie.

It is unfair. Young people have took the hardest hit on jobs too and the university situation is dreadful

@marieantoinehairnet

Yes, think of all the variants they can bring back!!

Much fewer than we'll breed here probably. I think their transmission is much lower than ours.

Really if this goes ahead never again should the young be curved to protect the old. All in this together, bollocks

So older people in the UK should be punished for the decisions made by another country? Yep, that seems sensible and rational. Should all the people who are CEV. CV or frontline workers be punished too for having the vaccine before other sectors of society, or is it just older people?

So many ageist tossers on this site. You will be old one day and I hope all your kids hate and resent you as much as you hate and resent older people.

@Cloudyrainsham

It’s ridiculous. It’s well known you can catch covid despite being vaccinated. A negative test would be much safer.

Negative test doesn’t warranty 100% that you don’t have the virus. You can take the test today and get infected 1h later. Or not have enough viral content and get a negative outcome when it’s positive.

Spain requests pcrs from the uk ans yet have got thousands of cases from the British variant

I can’t see the government being happy with the Portugal one with the close ties they have with Brazil.

If the government don't want us travelling to Portugal or anywhere they can add or keep it on the red list.

This is a good point to check your privilege OP.

Economically, parting wealthy elderly people with some of their money is a good thing, surely? I’m not sure it is genuinely more fair to insist everyone destroys all businesses possible together, regardless, than that decisions be made on grounds of safety.

I can’t get worked up about this tbh.

For me personally the thought of going abroad anytime soon, would make me too stressed. Can you imagine looking forward to your holiday, a few days before you do your test and someone in your family is positive! It sort of takes away any kind of enjoyment.

I’m happy holidaying in our beautiful country for the foreseeable.

@Walkabout Economically, parting wealthy elderly people with some of their money is a good thing, surely? I’m not sure it is genuinely more fair to insist everyone destroys all businesses possible together, regardless, than that decisions be made on grounds of safety

But isn’t it just as useful if they spend that money in the UK? Particularly if we don’t have as many tourists from overseas visiting in spring/summer?

We have all given up so much to reduce Covid in the UK - it would just be a complete nightmare if cases were brought back by vaccinated people in May that pass to the unpopulated population (children and 18-40 year olds) and schools shut again / businesses are further delayed from opening. Maybe my concerns are wrong & vaccinated people won’t be able to transmit Covid? It just seems reckless to put domestic recovery at risk with international travel when we are only just making our first steps out of this? It also seems inherently unfair to grant travel to some but not others when hitherto it’s been a national collective effort?

but there is evidence that the vaccines do stop transmission.

You do not need to prove anything,

You do if you want to go to Cyprus.

Read today Spanish islands from mid May will allow tourists with either vaccination or negative test.
So it depends what we require on return here as to whether any holiday would be attractive or feasible.

@VaVaGloom - you muddling up safety and perceived “fairness”again. And the entire population of the UK holidaying in the UK doesn’t sound feasible to me, unless most people are willing to holiday in their own houses, or spend multiple hours in traffic jams, and spread all sorts of variants within the UK itself in any event, especially those people who work in transport who are still travelling the world to bring all your food and other goods over to you so that you don’t have to go anywhere yourself. Plus, I don’t fancy footing the bill for, eg, BA’s massive final salary pension scheme if it goes belly up. The economy of the UK is not solely based on people in the UK staying home, exporting nothing and importing everything they need magically without making contact with the rest of the world.

In other words - weigh up the risks and benefits of allowing travel at all, and of allowing some travel by some people, and decide on that basis, rather than deciding all travel is off until all wealthy people of any age can do it... which is faux fairness anyway, given the fact so many people can’t afford it one way or the other.

Why are people getting so hot under the collar it said vaccine or negative test .if that proceedure is in place at each end everyone in theory can go .