aibu to think people have forgotten what lockdown was for / that life is not 100 per cent safe

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It has come to a point /coming to a point soon where we now have to learn to live with covid thanks to fab vaccination programme.
All this talk of schools not being ' safe '
They absolutely are safe for the majority of children/teachers.
Cars are not ' safe ' but a lot of people get them in them every day .

We can not carry on like this forever .
We have to live.
Our children need to go back to school.
We need to have a running economy for our kids future.

Lockdown was to stop the NHS totally collapsing. Not for people to ' stay safe ' and not to stop people getting this infection all together

100% agree OP. It's turned into collective madness.

@Fembot123 - yes I did mean cannula. And you thought it was great fun to jump on me for making this mistake, and to call me a child.

Which I think is utterly obscene and makes me feel very hateful.

I’ve been through an utterly horrible time, I love my niece dearly.

[quote Silverthorny]@Fembot123 - yes I did mean cannula. And you thought it was great fun to jump on me for making this mistake, and to call me a child.[/quote]
Read back, that wasn’t me.

Totally agree

@Silverthorny

Which I think is utterly obscene and makes me feel very hateful.

You started off screaming about hate before you brought your niece into it, all very strange.

I’ve reported you @Fembot123

I’m very sorry to all those on the thread who have lost loved ones to covid It is a horrible illness and it must be terrifying to have lived through this pandemic as a vulnerable person.

I do understand what the OP is saying. Clearly covid is very serious - over 100,000 people have died here because of it. I think the point is not to trivialise the effect it has had on individuals, but to point out that for the vast majority of people these consequences won’t arise.

So to say it is wrong for the government to make a slim, healthy 23 year old feel that they are personally at risk is project fear, is not to trivialise the awful impact on those vulnerable.

Yes - I hate people flouting rules!

@Silverthorny

Yes - I hate people flouting rules!

Please get a grip.

@Silverthorny

I’ve reported you *@Fembot123*

Good for you 🤨

@Silverthorny

Yes - I hate people flouting rules!

You what 😂

@Lemons1571

There weren’t many people on here screaming “schools are safe” in the last week of term in December.

Schools are no different now. No extra funds, no extra safety measures apart from a few lateral flow tests. Still plenty of group 6 7 8 9 teachers who haven’t yet had a vaccine and still have a long wait. I don’t understand the change in attitude on this thread as there really haven’t been many changes on the ground.

Vaccines

[quote Silverthorny]@unchienandalusia - to say death is part of life, it’s really not easy/comforting to hear that when you have family members directly affected. Particularly when it was a child, and we didn’t know the outcome. If anyone had said that to me 2 weeks ago, I would have...well I’m not sure what I would have done to them. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-children-hospitals-intensive-care-pims-b1796419.html%3famp[/quote]
Both my parents died young. I'm not offended by death is a fact of life because it is a fact of life.

@pootle40 - I’m sorry to hear that. Of course it is part of life, but to use it as a phrase to trivialise this very nasty virus - when people have had recent and direct experience of death and losing loved ones isn’t right.

I’ve had recent experience of death to this virus, what does that trump 😡

[quote Silverthorny]@pootle40 - I’m sorry to hear that. Of course it is part of life, but to use it as a phrase to trivialise this very nasty virus - when people have had recent and direct experience of death and losing loved ones isn’t right.[/quote]
I don't think they are trivialising it. My view on it is that whatever the cause of death they are equal so we shouldn't feel more or less for Covid.

@Pootle40 but they are? Posters saying it’s no worse than seasonal flu?

Couldn't agree more op.

I just find these threads so frustrating!

I agree with poster who said the Coronavirus section here is toxic but all of it isn't! There is a numbers thread that calmly everyday compares charts and numbers and evidence and a good news thread that has followed the development of the vaccines all the way through.

And then there are the 2 opposing sides of people yelling stay at home and the people saying get out and break the rules they're trying to take our freedom away!

I don't believe the govt have locked us down for no reason, I don't believe they have trashed the economy for no reason, they are a bunch of incompetent crooks and I don't trust them one bit but I trust the scientists and the epidemiologists and people like Johnathan Van Tam who have dedicated their lives to healthcare.

I work in public service, lots of my friends work in public service, the Royal Mail, Schools, NHS, DWP, they have all struggled with staff absences, Covid, people self isolating, long Covid , compassionate leave because they lost a spouse or a parent, probably some worried well - just letting this rip through the population and just 'getting on with it' wasn't an option.

We have what looks like a sensible plan now to gradually get back to normal but even that plan accepts that another 30,000 will die, if that's not living with it I don't know what is!

I always felt safe going to work in school. I caught covid in school and was ill for a few weeks with a stay in hospital. I still have lingering symptoms. It didn’t feel safe at all when we were dropping like flies in my class with students passing it on to their families and grandparents.

[quote Silverthorny]@Pootle40 but they are? Posters saying it’s no worse than seasonal flu?[/quote]
When I mentioned the flu, I was simply stating that those who are most at risk of serious illness from covid, were just as much at risk before from the flu.

If my dad caught the flu now, or two years ago, it would land him in hospital, with the possibility of it killing him. Same goes for covid.

Yes agree op - living is risky . The concern is that we start to be so cautious we stop living life to the full