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aibu to think people have forgotten what lockdown was for / that life is not 100 per cent safe

176 replies

icantthinkofanamehelp · 24/02/2021 15:38

It has come to a point /coming to a point soon where we now have to learn to live with covid thanks to fab vaccination programme.
All this talk of schools not being ' safe '
They absolutely are safe for the majority of children/teachers.
Cars are not ' safe ' but a lot of people get them in them every day .

We can not carry on like this forever .
We have to live.
Our children need to go back to school.
We need to have a running economy for our kids future.

Lockdown was to stop the NHS totally collapsing. Not for people to ' stay safe ' and not to stop people getting this infection all together

OP posts:
Douchebaggette · 24/02/2021 18:33

Agree.

However, it's not a total shocker that the last year has left people feeling vulnerable and out of control - thus seeking opportunities to regain the feeling of control. It's a side effect of the mental toll the pandemic has taken, so I think calling them stupid etc is unfair.

Life's full of risk. As with all risk, the acceptance of which comes down to the likelihood of the bad happening, the impact of the bad and the difficulty of avoiding it. Everyone will balance those 3 in slightly different ways.

wanderings · 24/02/2021 18:41

Absolutely. But I doubt that people will continue to live in fear and terror for long - remember all the "flocking" in the summer, which outraged so many of the Covid puritans? The same people who said
"don't get your haircuts in the summer, it's too risky", and now "why didn't you get your haircuts last summer?".

I'm sure that one reason for the slow pace of unlocking is that by the time those dates come round, people will be very, very ready to return to normal; especially as Saint Boris and his merry men are likely to insert propaganda to undo their own project fear. The narrative did shift rather quickly from "vaccines are ineffective" to "they are having a fantastic effect", as I knew it would.

OliveTree75 · 24/02/2021 18:42

Absolutely agree with you!

tootsytoo · 24/02/2021 18:44

I agree totally but we've been given dates when this ends so not sure what else can be done? If it continues a day past 21st June then I'm totally with you but otherwise - there's not really a valid argument here.

And I'm very anti lockdown!!

TheKeatingFive · 24/02/2021 18:45

Absolutely OP

Unfortunately the governments “Project Fear” worked too well.

This is the issue. To drive compliance, the government had to scare the shit out of the young and healthy about their own personal risk. It may take quite a while to row back from that.

TheKeatingFive · 24/02/2021 18:47

But I doubt that people will continue to live in fear and terror for long

I also agree with this. Acute fear is difficult to sustain. Once the warm weather comes I think a lot of people will relax.

HopelessBlue192 · 24/02/2021 18:49

Yes absolutely agree OP 100%

Isolatedizzy · 24/02/2021 18:53

What is the point of this post? It's happening!
They are going back to school on the 8th March, we have a plan to release the lockdown and come out of this without the numbers flying up and overwhelming the NHS.

What else do you want?

kunterbunting · 24/02/2021 19:05

Agree one thousand percent, OP.

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icantthinkofanamehelp · 24/02/2021 19:05

What else do you want

For people to stop saying schools are not safe
For some they are a child's only safe place.

For people to accept covid is another risk in life

For people to stop saying ' cases will rise'
As long as deaths do not and the NHS can cope and treat everyone plus all non covid19 related issues that's fine

For people to realise this was never to stop anyone getting the virus

For people to realise we now live with this virus and zero covid/ never been exposed to this virus is not possible

OP posts:
TempsPerdu · 24/02/2021 19:06

Yes, very much so. The psychology of all this will be fascinating in years to come, once we’ve gained a bit of perspective.

LivinLaVidaLoki · 24/02/2021 19:09

@icantthinkofanamehelp

What else do you want

For people to stop saying schools are not safe
For some they are a child's only safe place.

For people to accept covid is another risk in life

For people to stop saying ' cases will rise'
As long as deaths do not and the NHS can cope and treat everyone plus all non covid19 related issues that's fine

For people to realise this was never to stop anyone getting the virus

For people to realise we now live with this virus and zero covid/ never been exposed to this virus is not possible

Absolutely!!!!
MarshaBradyo · 24/02/2021 19:10

@icantthinkofanamehelp

What else do you want

For people to stop saying schools are not safe
For some they are a child's only safe place.

For people to accept covid is another risk in life

For people to stop saying ' cases will rise'
As long as deaths do not and the NHS can cope and treat everyone plus all non covid19 related issues that's fine

For people to realise this was never to stop anyone getting the virus

For people to realise we now live with this virus and zero covid/ never been exposed to this virus is not possible

Yes agree with this
unmumsymummy21 · 24/02/2021 19:13

I really agree with you OP. For me, it has all reminded me of my own mortality and of the mortality of the people I love. That's scary. I feel like even if covid goes away, I'm a little scarred, having been reminded of the fact we will all die. So other things also seem risky to me. I feel like when I can put the risk of covid to bed and stop worrying about that, I may start worrying about something else. Life doesn't seem as carefree as it did.

But this is life. Dealing with risks and being faced with the fact we all die, is just something we have to accept and live with. We just need to be grateful for what we have in the moment and for every second we are OK and our world is OK.

flowerycurtain · 24/02/2021 19:21

Completely agree.

I get this has been horrendous for those who have lost loved ones, worlked in care/nhs/frontline etc.

But thank fuck it's not as bad as the plague was for example.

GoldenGumballs · 24/02/2021 19:31

You’re all trivialising it.
I trivialised it till I got it last week and my husband today was taken to hospital in an ambulance. My Son is severely disabled, I’m an asthmatic, my Husband is a fit 48 year old. The virus has affected him the most.
I have nothing but hatred and respect now for this horribly random virus. Please don’t trivialise it.

MercyBooth · 24/02/2021 19:37

Im not scared of the virus. But lockdown has affected me badly mental health wise. I was comfort eating to cope. Once the hairdressers opened and i felt more like myself again that stopped. Now they are shut and i feel like a scruffbag again my food intake has crept up. They start in with the blame the "fatties" rhetoric again and they can shove their lockdowns and their vaccines up their arse. 48% of people have gained weight as a result of comfort eating and drinking. We locked down and did what they wanted We should be thanked not getting moaned at.

Bilgepumper · 24/02/2021 19:37

We've all had enough of lockdown but I would argue that lockdown should be lifted slowly and carefully. If it’s rushed then increased amounts of the virus will circulate in the younger members of the population, who have not been vaccinated. Some might argue that it wouldn’t matter, as they don’t get really ill and die. We’ve mostly vaccinated the vulnerable, we’ve protected the NHS, so let’s get on with it!

But, wait a minute and think. If there’s an increased amount of the virus in circulation, what will happen? The virus will mutate, there’s no doubt. With large amounts of virus, there’s more virus that will mutate. At any time a new variant will emerge which is able to by pass the vaccine and bingo, we are back to square one.

Vaccinating all adults ASAP and slowly lifting lockdown is the answer. With smaller amounts of virus circulating, the scientists can keep track of it and prevent a new variant from spreading.

We just have to be patient.

Chatterbox1987 · 24/02/2021 19:37

I'm seriously worried about my toddler... she's been in lockdown 75% of her life and has only ever had one cold .. she will start nursery in a few months... she is going to catch every single illness under the sun as she has built up no immunity in her early years...

TheKeatingFive · 24/02/2021 19:42

At any time a new variant will emerge which is able to by pass the vaccine and bingo, we are back to square one.

IF that is likely to happen (and I’m not convinced it is), it’s much more likely to be an issue with the rest of the unvaccinated world.

Unless we carefully manage borders for several years, it’s going to hit us anyway.

TheKeatingFive · 24/02/2021 19:44

48% of people have gained weight as a result of comfort eating and drinking.

Alcoholism is becoming a huge problem as a result of lockdown. I’ve seen emerging data on this in my job and it’s scary.

peak2021 · 24/02/2021 19:44

There is a difference between a nasty or unpleasant illness and one which could kill you or land you in hospital. The vaccination programme achieves the first, and so not an end to cases, but hopefully an end to deaths before too long.

OP you are correct that Mr Johnson only ever agreed to restrictions (later than should have been on each occasion) because of the fear of the NHS being overwhelmed.

MercyBooth · 24/02/2021 19:44

@GoldenGumballs Im sorry to hear that. Not Covid but my DH had a massive heart attack in 2006 so i know what its like to be that worried.

MercyBooth · 24/02/2021 19:46

@TheKeatingFive YY and blaming the populace after what we have sacrificed will not go down well. They havent seen the real fury of a lot of the public yet but i think they will.

Fembot123 · 24/02/2021 19:47

@GoldenGumballs

You’re all trivialising it. I trivialised it till I got it last week and my husband today was taken to hospital in an ambulance. My Son is severely disabled, I’m an asthmatic, my Husband is a fit 48 year old. The virus has affected him the most. I have nothing but hatred and respect now for this horribly random virus. Please don’t trivialise it.
I hope he gets well soon.