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Indoor mixing by the 17th of May? Did I hear that right?

145 replies

MargaritasAndFajitas · 22/02/2021 15:55

Just that really.

Just watching BJs statement and I was honestly shocked to hear this. I really didn't think this would be mentioned at all. I thought it would be the absolute bottom of the list!

Assuming things continue to go well, I'm personally thrilled if this does happen. I'm desperate to see my family! Both parents have been ill and they don't live close, so an outdoor meet would be impractical.

Anyway, just wanted to check I heard that correctly...

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BaconAndAvocado · 22/02/2021 17:11

Brilliant news.

For me, it will all be worth the wait.

callmeadoctor · 22/02/2021 17:12

How is that good news? Bloody ages away!!!

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 22/02/2021 17:14

Cases are no longer a consideration for the government when implementing the roadmap. Only hospitalisations and deaths matter now. The 'follow the rules to keep cases down' way of thinking is finished now

Not true

Transmission being low is the third test. There could be nasty surprises if people do not grasp this

LadyDanburysCane · 22/02/2021 17:15

I so want to see my daughter! Roll on May!

Feedingthebirds1 · 22/02/2021 17:17

@ajandjjmum

Completely opposite views on this thread - there's no way the Govt. will ever be able to please everyone. Only time will tell if they're getting it right.
And there are a lot of people demanding that schools open asap for the sake of the children's mental health, their education and because they cant cope with the DCs at home and indoors any longer. And just as many saying it should wait - for the reasons given above. Not only do children catch and spread it, but people will use that as an excuse to do whatever they like.

I do actually feel sorry for the govt. over this, it's been a poisoned chalice. They have screwed things up royally, but any other colour of govt. would have made mistakes too - maybe not the same ones, but certainly mistakes.

fussychica · 22/02/2021 17:24

Personally I'm getting fed up with hearing how many people are breaking the rules and others who will certainly do so once schools go back. If people can't restrain themselves for a bit longer we'll be back to square one, albeit with the most vulnerable protected this time.
People seem quite open about it and bloody insensitive. They know we haven't seen our family since August but cheerily tell us the popped in to see their kids on the pretext of some totally unnecessary reason like "oh we had to go to the dentist and they live close so we thought we just pop in and have a cup of tea with them, of course we kept our distance"
Rant over!

KingAlex · 22/02/2021 17:28

The government doesn't expect everyone to follow the rules, just enough to keep numbers low.

Choose your camps people. Personally I'll be meeting with low risk and vaccinated friends and family! I'm sick of people trying to tell others what to do.

Emmacb82 · 22/02/2021 17:28

I was really hoping for May half term so if this date sticks I’ll be delighted. I don’t live near family and had a baby in the very first lockdown that no one has seen apart from once. I just hope everyone sticks to the rules until then as I’m desperate to see them.

DavidsSchitt · 22/02/2021 17:30

"If he's sending all schools back for all pupils, I'll do what I like now.

Fuck waiting another 2-3 months to see family 'indoors'."

Hmm Jesus Christ. A year in and still people can't grasp what is happening and why.

DavidsSchitt · 22/02/2021 17:30

@Emmacb82 you can create a bubble to go and see them

Delatron · 22/02/2021 17:31

Whatever your stance it’s correct that the government will have had to factor increasing levels of non compliance in. This is why indoor mixing is so late in the road map . If say 40-50% comply until May that will be enough for them.

So you’ll be not seeing family and friends indoors for longer because they know many will be. Therein lies the be madness of all this.

cabbageking · 22/02/2021 17:33

It is up to the public to limit the spread and not make selfish decisions so we can get back to some sort of normality

DavidsSchitt · 22/02/2021 17:35

"I don’t know anyone who is meeting indoors at this stage. Outdoors yes, but not indoors"

You will do. They just haven't told you about it.

My neighbours haven't told me about mixing with their relatives but I know that they are because I've seen them.

Some of my other friends would be surprised to know that a few of our group have been meeting each other all year in their homes. I know because one of them sent pictures then confessed during a boozy get together.

My mum was surprised to hear that some of our relatives had a NYE party. They didn't tell her. Up until that point she "didn't know anyone meeting indoors" Grin

DavidsSchitt · 22/02/2021 17:36

"If say 40-50% comply until May that will be enough for them."

That's not accurate. Chris Whitty said they work on over 80% compliance

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MargaritasAndFajitas · 22/02/2021 17:37

I don't understand why people would now say "fuck it, I'm doing what I like from now on", when we actually have some clarity and some normality on the horizon.

No, 3 months isn't just round the corner, but surely it's better to hold off a little longer and for it to actually happen, than to give up now and go back to square one!

I could understand people saying this more if the roadmap was more bleak and prolonged.

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dreamingbohemian · 22/02/2021 17:37

@DavidsSchitt

"If he's sending all schools back for all pupils, I'll do what I like now.

Fuck waiting another 2-3 months to see family 'indoors'."

Hmm Jesus Christ. A year in and still people can't grasp what is happening and why.

Seriously, how do people still not get it

Boris was very clear today that each stage of lifting restrictions depends on the data

Step Two is 12 April and includes all the things we're desperate for, opening retail and pubs and all sorts of things. But none of that will happen if transmission and hospitalisations have shot up, which could still happen given that we won't all be vaccinated by then

If everyone decides to break the rules now then it's going to take even longer to get back to normal.

I'm not saying follow every single rule 100% all the time, obviously people bend things here and there. But MN is full of people today saying they're not following any of the rules at all anymore, what do people think will happen?

KettleWentBang · 22/02/2021 17:40

@DavidsSchitt totally agree. Everyone's doing it around here. Just not publicing it as such but then there's the odd slip.
My neighbour opposite. Has people in and out all day. Last year did so in garden when wasn't permitted. Doesn't bother me at all.

I also had my dm round last year in the garden.

And now I have been seeing my dm in doors. We don't splash it all over SM however I'm sure either her or my neighbours have 'spotted us'

Awalkinthefreshair · 22/02/2021 17:42

I'll get to see my adult son again.

Parker231 · 22/02/2021 17:44

If people break the restrictions now they are a total idiot. We are so near to returning to a life without restrictions, why jeopardise things at this stage.

52andblue · 22/02/2021 17:49

Is that date inside for a cuppa, or travel & inside for day / stay overnight?

mouldygrapes · 22/02/2021 18:03

You will do. They just haven't told you about it

I doubt it.
My family aren’t. Most of my friends work in healthcare (as do I) and are sick of being redeployed and seeing colleagues get sick. We’ve had two colleagues die.
Other friends who aren’t in healthcare aren’t as they’re desperate to get their kids back to schools.

People I know are definitely meeting outside at a distance, but not inside

mouldygrapes · 22/02/2021 18:05

Granted, I don’t know what the neighbours are up to but it’s generally quiet round here

Chloemol · 22/02/2021 18:06

Yes but only rule of 6 or two households and only if the other stages have not slipped

Racoonworld · 22/02/2021 18:06

@52andblue

Is that date inside for a cuppa, or travel & inside for day / stay overnight?
Both I think. Stay local message ends 29th March, inside with another household/rule of 6 from 17th May so that implies overnight stays with people.
Delatron · 22/02/2021 18:09

It might have been 80% compliance for lockdown one. But I doubt it is now. I could be wrong. I heard they were surprised at the level of compliance.

They had a strong message with ‘don’t kill your granny’

Now we have 1/3 of adults vaccinated yet we can’t see vaccinated parents for 3 months. They don’t know what compliance will be going forward but the fear factor will be going down...