If they open up schools all at once, I'm done with every other precaution

[BettyBoomerang]

If the 'leak' is true and they are stupid enough to open up all schools to all kids at the same time (thus leading to uncontrolled transmission of variants and increased risk of vaccine escape, further lockdowns and a redo of the vaccination programme) then I'm done with any kind of compliance.

I'm not staying at home like a fucking stupid sitting duck, waiting for my kids to come home with Covid anymore. The kids can see their friends, have sleepovers and we'll go out and about and visit friends and relatives and do the maximum we can.

You can pile in and call me selfish or whatever - I genuinely don't care anymore. I'm not putting my life on hold just for the government to fuck the recovery up again. I'm the most compliant of pretty much everyone I know but this is it for me, and many others I suspect (most of whom are already doing way more than me). If it's safe for my kids to go to school, then everything is safe.

You can write whatever you want @MarshaBradyo . That’s the way things should go but it’s not what’s going to happen unfortunately. So keep sitting in your house, keep denying it, keep enjoying those rules and let’s see which of us turns out to be right. See you in December. I’ll come check in and see how you’re doing. By then you might be ready to accept reality.

@MrsHusky

I'm vaccinated, by the time the kids go back, will be nearly a month post vaccination.

I've had a SEN child going to school daily since september, i've had an NT child in school september-december and homeschooling since.

I've stayed the fuck at home, and followed ALL the rules to make sure on the offchance my shooping trip or my son in school bring it home, so we don't pass it on to anyone else.

I am MORE than happy to continue doing this, same as i did it in sept-dec, vaccinated or not, because i'm not a complete and utter selfish cunt.

We are ALL sick of lockdown, we are ALL sick of not seeing friends and family while there are Selfish Cunts breaking the rules around us, but i'm not going to throw a tantrum and chuck my toys out the pram and go 'fuck it' just because i don't like the way the government are reopening things.

MY health and my kids health, and my familys health are the priority, why the ever loving fuck would i ADD to the potential to catch/spread infection to the students/teachers that my kids will come into contact with?

Because, in your own words, you are "more than happy" to continue having your life ruled by draconian rules and restrictions while others are not. :)

@Ridzlovesflowers

You can write whatever you want *@MarshaBradyo* . That’s the way things should go but it’s not what’s going to happen unfortunately. So keep sitting in your house, keep denying it, keep enjoying those rules and let’s see which of us turns out to be right. See you in December. I’ll come check in and see how you’re doing. By then you might be ready to accept reality.

Oh god same to you

Write what you want. Sit at home.

Predict the end of the world while you’re at it. Who cares

There’s a few of you there always will be

@MarshaBradyo - I love reading about the incredible vaccine results 😊

@everythingisstillginandroses - no, I am marshabradyo 😅

@Ridzlovesflowers - nothing to say to you. I’ll leave you to your miserable musings!

Ridzlovesflowers - you think large reductions in people being hospitalised won't change anything?

At this point, who can judge? Weve been in this fucking mess for how long? Its just shy of a year, we've been in lockdown, out of lockdown, in again, briefly out with the promise of Christmas which was yanked away 2 weeks before and In lockdown for another 3 months.

Many of us have done the right thing, not seen friends, not seen family, only left the house for the bare essentials.

The government keep making mistakes that are dragging this out. The children are not adequately protected, the teachers are not adequately protected. I don't agree with the children all going back at once. Ill continue to follow the rules because I am petrified of this virus. Absofucking-lutely terrified.

I do however see that my view on this is not the same as other peoples.
I see groups of people wandering the streets in groups of 4/5/6, doesn't look to me like they're from one household. I see groups of people hanging out in the dark in walking areas. Places are generally heaving with people just hanging around, even until 11/12 at night. (Our walks are getting later and later trying to avoid people) people are meeting up in supermarkets, having long chats and hugs with one another. People are still not SD and not wearing their masks. Entire families are still doing food shopping together. People are still visiting their friends and families.

I know a couple who are still socialising with their families, having parties like normal. She is a police officer and he works in an assisted living facility. 0 fucks given for the people they encounter. Cafes in town have massive queues with no SD and no one wearing masks.

I think over the past few months people have just become tired of all of the restrictions.

@unmarkedbythat

"I think what the government is doing is stupid and will raise risks. Therefore I will do everything I can to further raise risks."

Sums up the attitude of some on here perfectly.

@thatgingergirl I’m not saying you’re wrong for believing it should change but it simply will not.

I read the first few posts with despair, and am glad to see there's been a more rational response in the last couple of pages.

I have had to help out with dgc (it was the only way the family could survive) and we acknowledge there risk of that. But when they return to school I will NOT be seeing them. Them being at school increases some risks of transmission, to all I can do is balance some of that by decreasing risks in other areas. I other words, being more cautious, not less.

I think over the past few months people have just become tired of all of the restrictions.

Yes most people probably have. But by flouting the rules they'll just extend the period before more of society can reopen. Schools are thankfully highest priority, but everything else may need to wait if people behave like the op.

It's great news that vaccines are reducing hospitalisations etc, so wouldn't it be better to gradually reopen schools rather than all in one go so it gives time for everyone in group 6 to be vaccinated, as many school staff and parents are in group 6 and currently don't have immunity as have not had their vaccines.

You have to wonder, if people are still very doggedly following restrictions prohibiting them from seeing loved ones for almost an entire year, and still very much into following these rules, if they really even have anyone who loves them to begin with?

Keep in mind that these peoples lives may not have actually changed a great deal since the restrictions begun, therefore making it much easier for them to spit "selfish!" from their ivory towers of tedium and monotony.

The idea that they can try to aggressively police what other people do with their private lives may be the most thrilling hobby they've ever had.

@EasterIssland

Enjoy your selfishness. We really deserve a 4th lockdown with attitudes like these. Hope no relative catches and dies from the virus because you want to be back in 2019

Do you NOT want to be back in 2019?

What was so awful about your life pre-lockdown?

@TableFlowerss All the vulnerable are vaccinated. The shielding groups are bigger now, so anyone younger and obese will no doubt have had a letter from GP.
Tell that to all the asthmatics, obese but not morbidly obese and all the other health conditions missed off group 6.

@faerin

You have to wonder, if people are still very doggedly following restrictions prohibiting them from seeing loved ones for almost an entire year, and still very much into following these rules, if they really even have anyone who loves them to begin with?

Keep in mind that these peoples lives may not have actually changed a great deal since the restrictions begun, therefore making it much easier for them to spit "selfish!" from their ivory towers of tedium and monotony.

The idea that they can try to aggressively police what other people do with their private lives may be the most thrilling hobby they've ever had.

😂

This is such playground stuff. Can't you come up with a more reasoned and intelligent argument to support your stance than "you've obviously got no friends"? Hilarious.

faerin

You have to wonder, if people are still very doggedly following restrictions prohibiting them from seeing loved ones for almost an entire year, and still very much into following these rules, if they really even have anyone who loves them to begin with? “

I love my husband and son, CEV and CV and I live with them.

I can’t tell you how much I love my daughter and 6 month old grandson, even though he doesn’t know me from Adam because if I saw them, I could potentially kill DH and DS.

That’s the choice I’ve had to make and why I haven’t seen them. What would you have done?

Tell that to all the asthmatics, obese but not morbidly obese and all the other health conditions missed off group 6.

In fairness, they were missed for a reason and that’s because the data shows they are a less risk than others who are getting priority.

Oh I can completely see what you are saying. If all dc are shoved into schools what is the point.
I'm fed up too I cant take another lockdown.

Do you NOT want to be back in 2019? @faerin**

What does that have to do with prioritising children's education and being willing to make some sacrifices in other areas of life ?

Why are you scared @Inpersuitofhappiness ? Understandably if vulnerable but I just cannot fathom this immense fear otherwise? I am 30 and low risk so I’m not worried. I don’t like being ill but I’ve had plenty of shitty illness in my life. Glandular Fever that floored me for nearly a year. A kidney infection that landed me in hospital for a month. Hyperemesis in pregnancy that had me vomiting 30-40 times a day. Two bouts of proper flu that had me in hospital, one being in January. So so poorly. It was hideous. I’m still recovering. And let’s not mention the few rounds of norovirus my DD’s have brought home from nursery over the last few years 😫

Meanwhile, covid made me feel like I had a bad cold.. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I just can’t worry. What will be will be. I’d rather not get ill but life happens. And don’t get me started on long covid. See above for how long it took me to recover from Glandular Fever. I’m 6 weeks post flu & feeling 50/50. Post viral illness is common. It gets better for the vast majority of people.

Even healthy over 50s are vulnerable to serious illness.

I have had to help out with dgc (it was the only way the family could survive) and we acknowledge there risk of that. But when they return to school I will NOT be seeing them. Them being at school increases some risks of transmission, to all I can do is balance some of that by decreasing risks in other areas. I other words, being more cautious, not less.

Well that’s fine for you but plenty of grandparents will be on the school run as usual like many many grandparents. Presumably most of them will be vaccinated. I’m not staying home to save granny when granny is simultaneously considered safe to be mixing with kids and hundreds of others on a daily basis.

Op you won’t be you’d be helping us reach next stage of opening on plan. Or not

There are some great posts on here that sum up exactly how I feel. It's not just the sitting in the classroom room that makes opening schools increase the R rate. It's the other things associated with it. Parents in the playground chatting, going back into work instead of WFH, travelling associated with work and school and of course the attitude of some that once they are mixing in schools that sleepovers etc are OK.

We have spent the last year protecting various members of society at different times. It's now the time to prioritise children. Hopefully the vaccine programme and summer months will mean that this is our last national lockdown.

I’d comply in Wales, Ireland or Scotland. Their phased return breeds caution. But no, here we are in merry old England with Boris the clown and his Big Bang. I won’t be sitting home from now in till we all suffer the consequences of his horrendous decisions again. No way.