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Looks like the plans are now leaked.

773 replies

pinkhappy · 21/02/2021 22:28

The Times seems to have leaked the plans now. I for one will be very happy if children's outdoor sport starts on March 8.

March 8:
Schools
Kids outdoor sport
Golf + Tennis

Early April:
🛍Non-essential retail
Outdoor pubs + restaurants

Mid April:
Gyms

May:
Cinemas + Theatre
Indoor pubs + restaurants

August:
Foreign holidays
Clubs

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lunapeace · 21/02/2021 23:22

We've had early years / nurseries open throughout this lockdown and cases are still dropping. I think primary schools should have gone back first. Test the waters there, I honestly think primary schools are not a major concern. Secondary schools.... well!!

CeibaTree · 21/02/2021 23:22

@Multicover

Lockdowns are instigated to stop the NHS from being overwhelmed. Not to eradicate the virus. High vaccination rates mean that the incidence of those most likely to become seriously ill requiring hospital admission will decline. Covid is here to stay. The sooner people get their head around that the better. Get kids back to school and get tbe economy moving.
Totally agree with everything you've written. It seems some posters have the idea that we can get rid of covid once and for all with endless lockdowns. That's not going to happen, and with every adult supposedly getting their first vaccination dose by July things should start to get back to a semblance of normality. And I know the lockdown lovers will start saying 'but what about the new strains etc' but we can't hide away forever and no one knows if the new strains are either vaccine resistant or more deadly than the current strains anyway at this point.
KeepWashingThoseHands · 21/02/2021 23:22

I’m not more bothered about my hair and am DELIGHTED schools re going back. Simply bored shitless of the endless ‘schools’ debate. Can see that’s where this thread has headed again (shocking) so will leave you to it.

MummaPI · 21/02/2021 23:22

@pinkhappy

Those suggesting lockdown 4 seem very pessimistic. Very few people infected after 14 feb will die in the uk because of the vaccinations.
None of my school staff have had a vaccination yet, pipe down.
Joeblack066 · 21/02/2021 23:22

@MrsMiggins22

Hairdressers are non essential in a bloody pandemic, that’s why they’re later! Just let it grow, cut it or pin it up...
They do, however, need to earn a living. If non essential shops can reopen so should hairdressers. They are incredibly Covid safe.
justasking111 · 21/02/2021 23:22

I suspect sending all children back means cases/deaths will rise, some l statistical department somewhere has decided on the acceptable number of daily deaths, around 200 to 250, they can live with that. It will be a dripping tap of daily numbers which we will become inured to.

LimitIsUp · 21/02/2021 23:23

x posts with Vinyl

AllAroundTheWrekin · 21/02/2021 23:23

Will they've got two weeks to be shown surely? My 16 year old niece has a bunch of them at home and tests herself twice a week for work. She doesn't seem to find it a big deal.

If the teachers are doing this then they won't be teaching which seems a bit nuts.

SimonJT · 21/02/2021 23:23

@Greyingmumto3

Why would teachers be expected to be responsible for testing? My child has a keyworker place and it’s our responsibility to get her tested and email the school weekly . I’m also expected to test myself twice a week and send in results to my manager .
The first test takes place at school, so the school provided all the PPE, testing kits, testing registration barcodes, tests, tests for the results, records the results online.
SakuraEdenSwan1 · 21/02/2021 23:23

The Government leak the plans knowing fine well it's not allowed, never trust a Tory.

WhenSheWasBad · 21/02/2021 23:23

Downstairs

Probably as most of us with kids are under 50 and don't shit our pants at getting it unless we are already vulnerable

Unnecessarily rude. I spent all of the autumn term worrying that I’d bring it home to my thankfully newly vaccinated Dh (who is vulnerable, so yes I was scared, although not quite shitting my pants).

I’m more worried about this thing overwhelming the NHS. I called an ambulance for my son in September (non Covid). They said they would send one immediately. 10 seconds later they explained none were free and I could I get him there on my own (I could and he was ok) but the 999 call in November for him was way more urgent and much scarier.

That’s what I’m scared of. Not just for my family but for my community.

I don’t think we should lockdown forever. It’s just too soon. Allowing unvaccinated people to mix will spread it.

Being rude to people who actually have a valid reason to be scared is like I say unpleasant.

BirdHedge · 21/02/2021 23:23

Any ideas on self catering opening? Even if it’s only stay local? Or within your U.K. country. When can you socialise outdoors? Either in a park or garden?

Allthepopularkids · 21/02/2021 23:23

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alwaysraining123 · 21/02/2021 23:24

Yes work harder and longer and be seemingly required to do the impossible. Welcome to the predicament of the rest of us!

RedcurrantPuff · 21/02/2021 23:26

Why would there be more lockdowns needed when everyone is vaccinated? Honestly this is all such bullshit.

donewithitalltodayandxmas · 21/02/2021 23:27

Or we could all just wait for tomorrow and see what is actually going to happen

LimitIsUp · 21/02/2021 23:27

"The “catalyst moment” came when Johnson agreed with Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, that when restrictions lift, they should have time to bed in so the effects of each can be assessed before further steps are taken."

This from the article too - seems sensible

purplebatbear · 21/02/2021 23:27

@alwaysraining123

Teaching is not my paid job either but yet I’ve been expected to teach for the best part of the year (along with my actual job). Teachers need to be more adaptable.
Ok. So please tell me how you'd like teachers to be more adaptable.

They are currently working either in school with keyworker children or from home, whilst (very often) educating their own children as they may not qualify for a keyworker place if their partner isn't a keyworker.

How else can they teach? I'm unsure what else they can possibly do?

Oh. They're also constantly Doug welfare checks, dealing with ever increasing safeguarding issues, sorting out school meals for those most in need who are not at school whilst still teaching. If you haven't seen this side of their job then that's probably because your nice little family/world don't require that level of help. But many, many others do.

Or should they now go forward and work, unpaid, outside of their contracts over this mythical extension of education during the school holidays that this twatty, useless government are teasing all the baying public crowd with.

Would you work for free? For a considerable amount of time to the detriment of your family? Perhaps you'd like to not see your relatives (some of whom you may have not seen for nearly a year due to shielding) to educated/summer school other people's little poppets for free?

No? Ah. Is that because your profession isn't considered a 'vocation'? (Such a wonderful word to use to erode any perceived value within a job).

Oh. And would you work in close proximity to others who are highly prone to passing on bodily fluids without both parties wearing a mask during this pandemic.
Or be in an enclosed small space with around 30 maskless people who can, according to the scientists, pass on this disease highly effective but be symptomless.

You wouldn't? Funny that...

Teachers are working very very hard.
Teaching is a job, not voluntary work.
Teachers deserve time with their own families without any fear of passing on a deadly disease.

3littlewords · 21/02/2021 23:27

@AllAroundTheWrekin

Teachers need to be more adaptable.

Or clone themselves so they can teach, clean and perform lateral flow test all at the same time.

Because there are not enough staff to cover all children back at once. Funnily enough schools are understaffed and underfunded.

I think what the poster who said that meant that those who have been wfh and meant to ensure home schooling has been done to multiple dc of varying ages have supposedly needed to become more adaptable and just get on with doing both without question. I feel the comment was more in jest/sarcasm than actual.
michelle1504 · 21/02/2021 23:28

How accurate are we thinking this 'leak' is?

LimitIsUp · 21/02/2021 23:28

@donewithitalltodayandxmas

Or we could all just wait for tomorrow and see what is actually going to happen
It will be pretty much as the Times has reported
LimitIsUp · 21/02/2021 23:28

@michelle1504

How accurate are we thinking this 'leak' is?
Accurate!
Mockolate · 21/02/2021 23:28

Do you have a source to link to?
As I'm not going to get my hopes up until it is announced officially, as fed up of all the speculating.
We need to start getting back to some sort of normality, and easing slowly out of lockdown, we can't stay like this forever.
I'd happily keep on home schooling, but it's starting to mentally affect my 14 year old, he wants to be back at school and seeing people again.
Starting to be upset every morning at the thought of online lessons.
So I'd like them to start going back.
Outdoor pubs and restaurants, yes please as would like to be able to meet my mum again during the week!
Even if it does have to be outdoors.
May have missed it, but does anyone know when we can meet up indoors again or has nothing been said on that yet?

Truelymadlydeeplysomeonesmum · 21/02/2021 23:28

@LimitIsUp

"The “catalyst moment” came when Johnson agreed with Whitty, the chief medical officer for England, that when restrictions lift, they should have time to bed in so the effects of each can be assessed before further steps are taken."

This from the article too - seems sensible

Is that not just what they did with the first lockdown?
Violetlavenders · 21/02/2021 23:29

To the poster that claims to speak on behalf of the entire London and SE region, I'm in that region too. My kids were at school and clubs and activities for the whole period from September. Not a single case in any of the children or the adults.

Same here. My two teens didn't miss a single day of school last term between September and Christmas. nor did the majority of pupils at their schools . We're in Greater London.

I'm so pleased that they've going back to school on the 8th March (hopefully Smile)