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Looks like the plans are now leaked.

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pinkhappy · 21/02/2021 22:28

The Times seems to have leaked the plans now. I for one will be very happy if children's outdoor sport starts on March 8.

March 8:
Schools
Kids outdoor sport
Golf + Tennis

Early April:
🛍Non-essential retail
Outdoor pubs + restaurants

Mid April:
Gyms

May:
Cinemas + Theatre
Indoor pubs + restaurants

August:
Foreign holidays
Clubs

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twelly · 22/02/2021 08:03

The vunerable have been vaccinated already, the over 65s are being vaccinated at present , by the time we start unlocking the over 60s will either be well underway or finished. The virus is much less of an issue for the healthy and those under 50. We can’t carry on as we have done. We need to get back to normal

User133847 · 22/02/2021 08:04

Seems like outside is a free for all from Easter but you can't do much indoors.

3littlewords · 22/02/2021 08:05

@FrippEnos

Teachers need to be more adaptable.

Its comments like this that gets teachers hackles rising.

You've taken 1 line out of a whole quote and turned it into whatever you want it to mean. The poster has already confirmed that it was said in sarcasm as parents were told to be more adaptable with their own jobs to ensure home schooling could be done. Move on , don't create an argument where there isnt one
scottiedogs · 22/02/2021 08:05

@Lubliluxe exactly...anyone that has to travel any distance continues to be penalised. We were told no Christmas meant a better Easter. Apart from kids back at school, March and April will be no different...no-one to see. Until they allow overnight stays we are screwed. My hair can wait, but it being almost a year since I have seen friends and family in this country is beyond belief. Its almost a year since lockdown one and I feel like it's never ending. Hmm

User133847 · 22/02/2021 08:06

@MrsHuntGeneNotJeremyObviously

I will be massively pissed off if everyone is allowed to go in holiday abroad and it fucks up this year's Christmas because they bring back the SA variant or a new one that doesn't respond to the vaccine!
It's not just Christmas though. It's the whole autumn and winter that will be fucked again.

They should tighten the borders and open more up domestically.

frakas · 22/02/2021 08:06

No one wants to go to the pub or restaurant with hair that’s not seen a hairdresser for 6 months !!

Mine hasn't seen one for two years and I'd be happy to go to the pub Confused

Multicover · 22/02/2021 08:07

‘I don’t get why people think there will be more lockdowns in November? Everyone will be vaccinated by then?’

Mutations. Millions of them. We’re all doomed. Stay locked down for ever because of the mutations.

TheTreeThatSatDown · 22/02/2021 08:10

Hairdressers are non essential in a bloody pandemic, that’s why they’re later! Just let it grow, cut it or pin it up

Only someone who doesn't have a short hair cut that grows into something completely unmanageable and unstyleable could come out with that. I have to go to work and face the public every day with hair that is completely unworkable. I can't just pin it up, and last lock down when I tried to cut it it turned into a mullet. Just because you are OK doesn't mean everyone is.

thetell · 22/02/2021 08:11

I am so pleased for my primary age DC who has had really uninspiring home learning with no live teaching the SLT don't want teachers doing live learning even though some of them have hinted they would like to do it, DC usually loves learning but she has lost her enthusiasm and it is affecting our relationship now and I am unable to work effectively which has given me anxiety. I would happily keep my teens off for another month if it helped society as their home learning has been incredible and we have had so much support and contact from the secondary.
I can really understand how teachers feel however, it must be daunting, and I am crossing everything that the extent of vaccinations, the new shielding list, and dropping numbers keeps them safe. I think Boris is being so cautious now after all his previous mistakes that he wouldn't be doing this if he didn't think that in two weeks infection rates wouldn't have dropped to a level that made it safe enough.

scottiedogs · 22/02/2021 08:13

I also feel like a whole host of families and businesses have completely let down. People have spent a lifetime working and building careers, some of which have opened for a month or two in 12 months. It's a disgrace when many could be run covid securely....

Dementedswan · 22/02/2021 08:13

@twelly the vulnerable have not all been vaccinated... I haven't. DH has had his but his immunity won't kick in until after the schools go back. I don't even have a date for mine yet.

I imagine there are a lot of parents in this situation. There should be a choice.

StarCat2020 · 22/02/2021 08:14

@TheNinjaWife
I am angry for your DD being put in this situation.

I am ashamed that I am suggesting this but has your DD looked into claiming Universal Credit?

I know it isn't in any way comparable to her business income but maybe it could "bridge the gap"?

studychick81 · 22/02/2021 08:18

Why don't they just vaccinate teachers in the next two weeks to keep them happy and the unions happy? Then there wouldn't be so much opposition to schools reopening. As long as it's done after the CV and urgent groups 1-4.

usedandabusedx1000 · 22/02/2021 08:20

@studychick81 your children’s school and your location is just one of many.....

wanderings · 22/02/2021 08:21

To all those panicking: there is plenty of time for U-turns. It wouldn’t be Saint Boris’s roadmap without them. As I knew he would, he has effectively switched the narrative from “vaccines are ineffective” to “Looooooook! Vaccines are working!!!!!” It also looks like the government are aware people will start mixing whether it’s allowed or not.

I agree with whoever said that if it goes wrong this time, Saint Boris and his merry men will run for the hills. They’ve probably planned their own roadmap for this. He’ll want to do that anyway, before the consequences of his beloved lockdown (recession, unemployment, suicides, riots, children with messed up mental health) become apparent.

underneaththeash · 22/02/2021 08:24

@PinkFondantFancy

To the poster that claims to speak on behalf of the entire London and SE region, I'm in that region too. My kids were at school and clubs and activities for the whole period from September. Not a single case in any of the children or the adults.

Not sure what my individual anecdote adds but it disagrees with 'everyone was falling down with it'

And mine, none at all in DS2's school and we never had a case in DS1's Year of 180 although there were a few in the sixth form. DD also had none in her part of the school.

And we're in the SE close to London.
I think "business lunches/dinners" played their part.

Thelovelyflower · 22/02/2021 08:27

Not sure if I can post links on here but this just about sums it up for me

VinylDetective · 22/02/2021 08:28

@speakout

Mid May new lockdown.
Just like the surge that was going to happen last summer when people went to beaches? Only it didn’t, rates plummeted and then plateaued. So disappointing for all the Cassandras.
twelly · 22/02/2021 08:28

The very vunerable were vaccinated as group 4 that has happened. Group 6 are well underway and in the majority of areas completed.

User7538943 · 22/02/2021 08:29

@Lubiluxe

Hmm... I've read one article.. I haven't seen anything about the 'stay local' anyone seen? I would need to drive 3 hours.
In the Mail it says for March 29th 'travel outside a local area could be allowed'. Note 'could'
MarshaBradyo · 22/02/2021 08:29

Some people sound like they won’t be happy until they get another lockdown.

VinylDetective · 22/02/2021 08:30

@studychick81

Why don't they just vaccinate teachers in the next two weeks to keep them happy and the unions happy? Then there wouldn't be so much opposition to schools reopening. As long as it's done after the CV and urgent groups 1-4.
Because the message that would send is they just give in to whoever shouts loudest. What a fabulous thing to teach a generation of kids.
HerrWanksock · 22/02/2021 08:31

@FrippEnos

Teachers need to be more adaptable.

Its comments like this that gets teachers hackles rising.

Not as much as 'children are resilient' does.
Tangledtresses · 22/02/2021 08:35

I for one will be celebrating 🥳 hurrah schools open!

I just don't get all this doom... I think a lot of people on here don't actually have any experience of schools and how hard they worked last year to put measures in. Both schools my kids go to had exactly 7 cases since sept all caught at home from parents! We have 232 cases per 1m where we live at the moment.

We're going to have to learn to live with covid for quite a while yet!

Laiste · 22/02/2021 08:37

Lockdowns are to prevent too many in hospital at one time.

Lockdowns are not to ''keep us safe from the virus''.

Now such a high percentage of the vulnerable are vaccinated we come out of lockdown. People will still catch it. Some of them will die of it. But not so many that the NHS is overwhelmed.

That's the harsh truth.
Lockdown is not to ''keep us all safe''.

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