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Looks like the plans are now leaked.

773 replies

pinkhappy · 21/02/2021 22:28

The Times seems to have leaked the plans now. I for one will be very happy if children's outdoor sport starts on March 8.

March 8:
Schools
Kids outdoor sport
Golf + Tennis

Early April:
🛍Non-essential retail
Outdoor pubs + restaurants

Mid April:
Gyms

May:
Cinemas + Theatre
Indoor pubs + restaurants

August:
Foreign holidays
Clubs

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purplebatbear · 21/02/2021 23:36

Images of data linked to school transmission increases

Looks like the plans are now leaked.
Looks like the plans are now leaked.
1805 · 21/02/2021 23:37

sorry, haven't read the whole thread.

When will social distancing stop? I'm thinking of theatres - when can they open with full seating capacity?

AfternoonToffee · 21/02/2021 23:37

It doesn't actually say that every single child will be in on the 8th, just schools open. Some kind of phased return could still be on the cards.

But I think it is far better for everyone to get frothy/anxious/doomy without knowing the full details.

MummaPI · 21/02/2021 23:37

@Multicover

‘None of my school staff have had a vaccination yet, pipe down.’

How many of them are CEV?

Not relevant, if we are to go back with no changes to make it safe we should be given the option to be vaccinated. They say schools are safe when cases are low and schools are not safe when cases are high, if they don't change anything during that time it makes no sense. People who are not CEV can still get very ill and pass it on to other family members.
marieantoinehairnet · 21/02/2021 23:37

@1805

sorry, haven't read the whole thread. When will social distancing stop? I'm thinking of theatres - when can they open with full seating capacity?
Don't be daft, that's not happening this year realistically!
Carlislemumof4 · 21/02/2021 23:38

They are keeping their promise on prioritising schools reopening this time round, whoop!! So thrilled, all year groups back in together so I haven't got to worry about one of mine sitting at home while the others get back. Year 6 DD is going to find it so much easier to cope with finding out about her secondary place next week if she knows she'll be in school the week after!

Absolutely right they're prioritising social contact with family/ friends alongside schools.

Bit surprised non essential retail isn't reopening almost immediately, low risk and our city centre is already going to look so different with all the high street chains that are closing without further delays.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 21/02/2021 23:38

@EasterIssland

Btw the guardian points at non essential shops opening in April ... I guess that’s when nail bars and hair dressers would open
They're classed as personal services (or some such) not 'shops'
CallmeAngelina · 21/02/2021 23:38

"One hour form time at the start of the school day during which each teacher shows the class how to do the swab test and oversees them doing it? Big schools have more teachers surely. Doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to me."

Written by someone who's clearly never set foot inside your average school in decades.

VinylDetective · 21/02/2021 23:39

@Pieceofpurplesky

Teacher. Over 50. Asthmatic. Overweight. No vaccine (band 6). I hoped for exam years in and phased for the rest to give more time for teachers like me (in my school of 75 staff 1/4 are over 50) to get vaccinated. Several local staff died or have long covid. Year 11s had three 10 day isolations from September to December. 8 positive cases during lockdown of socially distanced kids. And now we are going to Chuck 'em all back in.

And yet the most important thing oh here seems hair and nails?

Don't worry - you won't need it for summer holidays as lockdown 4 will be in full flow

Band 6 is currently being vaccinated. There won’t be any lockdown 4. People won’t stand for it.
StaffRepFeistyClub · 21/02/2021 23:39

@LimitIsUp

8 March is just 3 weeks prior to the Easter holidays. A natural firebreak and the opportunity to assess implications of school reopening for the R rate
not really a fire break as kids will then all be mixing again and once open it will be really hard to stop again. BoJo and the gang can not come back and ask for another lockdown. if they screw this up then it will just have to run.
SakuraEdenSwan1 · 21/02/2021 23:39

@indemMUND

Schools with fines back in place? Single parent, uncontrolled asthma, no vaccine offered yet. One child. Walk 6 miles a day 5 days a week to do the school run. With new variants and extra transmission no way. Deal breaker. GP can't help. Where does that leave vulnerable parents?
The schools have to offer remote education in instances like this, it's in the policy for the reopening of schools. Get your GP to write a letter and do not the school threaten you or fob you off which they will. My son has been off for a whole year now doing this.
purplebatbear · 21/02/2021 23:39

Teachers are there to teach.
We are not there to administer lateral flow tests. The military help promise hasn't materialised.

Firefliess · 21/02/2021 23:39

@AllAroundTheWrekin

Will they've got two weeks to be shown surely? My 16 year old niece has a bunch of them at home and tests herself twice a week for work. She doesn't seem to find it a big deal.

If the teachers are doing this then they won't be teaching which seems a bit nuts.

Only for a few hours though. A one off at the start of term. Thereafter the plan is that kids are tested at home not in schools. So teachers don't teach for an hour or two while they do the tests, then they get back on with teaching for the rest of the term. My niece's job isn't doing Covid testing either. Not is her it her employer's job who showed her how to do the test. Not the NHS staff who test people on admission to hospital, etc etc. All these people just do what needs doing and then get back on with their job. Is it really a big ask to expect teachers to oversee testing for a few hours on just one day? Then get back to teaching.
Pieceofpurplesky · 21/02/2021 23:39

Vinyl not where I am - not one member of staff have been offered and several of us are band 6

MartiniDry · 21/02/2021 23:40

Insanity: Carrying out the same action again and again yet expecting different results.

Johnson and co need to be strong up.

Alwaysready · 21/02/2021 23:40

Sky say all school reopening, bo mention of all year groups back..... obviously schools never closed but it doesnt say all children in- I'm hopefully for a phased return- surely?!

hennaoj · 21/02/2021 23:40

Is mixing households indoors mentioned at all?

VinylDetective · 21/02/2021 23:41

@Pieceofpurplesky

Vinyl not where I am - not one member of staff have been offered and several of us are band 6
My bloke’s band 6 and booked in for next Friday. Call your GP surgery.
StaffRepFeistyClub · 21/02/2021 23:41

@CallmeAngelina

"One hour form time at the start of the school day during which each teacher shows the class how to do the swab test and oversees them doing it? Big schools have more teachers surely. Doesn't seem an insurmountable problem to me."

Written by someone who's clearly never set foot inside your average school in decades.

and also by someone who hasnt met Bob in Year 11
Dustyboots · 21/02/2021 23:41

Insanity: Carrying out the same action again and again yet expecting different results.

You can sort of see the Johnson hamster wheel brain in action - can't you?

RubyViolet · 21/02/2021 23:41

@Downriver

It was caused by schools. In London and SE everyone I knew with schoolchildren was falling down in December, including me.
Yes, and the kids still won’t be vaccinated. The Teachers won’t be vaccinated. I do understand. Can’t we wait a little longer and push the vaccinations out to all over 40’s and vulnerable?
Luckyrabbitfoot · 21/02/2021 23:42

@Watchingbehindmyhands

Teaching is not my paid job either but yet I’ve been expected to teach for the best part of the year (along with my actual job). Teachers need to be more adaptable

Gosh, I must have missed my adaptability. I didn’t move all my lessons, assessments etc, online back in March and teach full time whilst homeschooling my own children. Nor did I rework schemes of work for exam classes in September after testing. Or rework it all again in January. I didn’t plan half a term of face to face learning that I had to adapt at less than 12 hours notice to online learning. I haven’t spent hours and hours trawling the internet, laising with colleagues in other schools looking for innovative and interesting ways to present my lessons and I certainly didn’t spend hours making new learning resources to suit. I didn’t spend hours on the phone talking in vulnerable children, making them learning packs and delivering them and I haven’t just spent 6 weeks delivering learning simultaneously online and to keyworker students in my classroom.

Yep, the answer is teachers learning adaptability....

Please don’t feel you have to justify yourself to the idiot teacher bashers. The rest of us know just how hard you have worked and appreciate it more than you will ever know.

From a parent, thank you Flowers

VinylDetective · 21/02/2021 23:42

@MartiniDry

Insanity: Carrying out the same action again and again yet expecting different results.

Johnson and co need to be strong up.

It’s not the same action, there weren’t any vaccines last time.
Multicover · 21/02/2021 23:42

@nevernotstruggling

Meanwhile schools have been operating this whole lockdown with lots at around 50% capacity.
Meanwhile Government figures published on 16th Feb show that state secondary schools are operating at 5% capacity and state primary schools at 24% rising to 34% in special schools. As they have done consistently through lockdown.
AfternoonToffee · 21/02/2021 23:42

@Alwaysready

Sky say all school reopening, bo mention of all year groups back..... obviously schools never closed but it doesnt say all children in- I'm hopefully for a phased return- surely?!
Sshh we can't be offering all sensible suggestions like that, people need to be typing out very cross thoughts. Grin