40% of Covid cases caught IN hospital

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I know it’s the daily mail but it’s all over

So whilst our lives have been fucked, they realistically needed to improve infection control in hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9254495/Stopping-Covid-spreading-hospitals-substantial-reduction-wave-deaths.html

From a SAGE paper

Not surprising really. I imagine it is similar this time too. I have friends who are nurses at our local hospital and before xmas they said covid was on every ward and some wards had to stop taking patients because so many had tested positive

Oh good, we can blame the NHS - that’ll make it even easier to sell off

Most of the people I know who have had it caught it in hospital while they were in for something else

If that's true then maybe it's time to stop the "Look them in the eye" emotional blackmail adverts

@BonnieDundee

If that's true then maybe it's time to stop the "Look them in the eye" emotional blackmail adverts

Absolutely. These advert are absolutely disgusting.

Even more reason to keep community cases as low as possible. Can you imagine the fucking mess we'd be in without restrictions to limit transmission.

No surprises. I can think of 4 people who caught it whilst in hospital since Christmas. Went in clear and within 4 days have had positive tests.

I know someone who had a relatively minor car crash, caught covid in hospital and died of it.

My family all worked in the NHS but there is an infection control problem.

Infection control within a hospital has always been tricky. I do think it is important to distinguish between hospital and community aquired infections.

I am absolutely not surprised at all. I know you can't extrapolate from personal experience but my Dad died in hospital in December, he had 2 negative tests before he went in, but caught CV19 whilst in there. I personally know 3 others who went in for something else (stroke, to give birth, heart problems) and they got CV19 in there. I have thought for months they should only let people into hospital if they have had a -ve test, all others go to a Nightingale.

Maybe the slogan should be changed to:
Stay at home
Save yourself from the NHS

DH was in ITU for just over a week and then in a side /private room for a week. He had repeated negative results over two weeks then tested positive on the day before he was discharged. He hadn't even been out of his room and the ward was a 'green ward ' which was supposed to be a negative ward. He came home positive for Covid. Luckily he was asymptomatic but I had to barrier nurse him / isolate myself for two weeks. I didn't get it or I was also asymptomatic.

Friend of mine - her mother was in hospital for cancer treatment - on discharge was positive...

Oh ok! Brilliant idea! Let's control the infection! Fab!

Now if you can tell me how we do that when:

You can't tell if people have the bastard thing reliably without a pcr test which takes hours to run
Hospitals have very limited space for people to wait in isolation before going up to a ward
Hospitals have very limited isolation spaces on the wards
The infection can spread with short periods of contact and in the air
Staff can be positive without feeling ill
Any hospital has huge numbers coming in and out especially they try to keep appointments running

Any IPC experts please do volunteer to hit the wards with the teams. They've only been living a nightmare for the last year, they're basically clueless and no doubt you will soon show them how to defeat a highly infectious virus that we have only a limited understanding of even now,

This is very old news
I'm glad if it's getting attention but grrrr....

@whatisthislifesofullofcare

Maybe the slogan should be changed to: Stay at home Save yourself from the NHS

To be fair this should apply to many other areas of the NHS such as maternity care in some hospitals.

Hopefully this pandemic has shown up how the NHS is not fit for purpose and can no longer work in such an aging society. We need to look at other healthcare systems and make major changes.

Will this become like mrsa and c diff then ? A predominantly hospital issue ?

Maybe they can stop accusing us of filling hospital beds if we go for a slightly longer walk now?

It's disgusting the way it's spread around the wards. The hospital I work in had covid on every single adult ward at one point. I had to help out on an elderly ward and every single patient had covid.
I work on a children's ward and our staff have been sent to adult wards and their infection control is disgusting. They don't change apron or gloves between patients and they are responsible for spreading it.
There was a massive outbreak on an orthopaedic ward due to staff being complacent and not wearing masks because 'they don't get covid on that ward'.
I've been nursing for 11 years and i'm ashamed of the nhs.

Didn't they say after first lockdown a third of covid infections were in caught in hospital

Thought we knew this already?

@atThecrossroad I think we will have an isolation ward for years yes. It's a far bigger risk than other infections like MRSA.

I've been in hospital for a week on a "green" ward. There have been a few covid cases here and they've been moved but I feel perfectly safe here. Staff very diligent.

Sorry I don't know where I got a week from. I wish. 3 weeks

My 90 year old grandmother was taken into a “non-covid” hospital due to a fall (north with low cases) caught it and has sadly died within 28 days. She wouldn’t have got it otherwise.