Furlough / working backside off

[Mingkong]

Am I the only person who is hacked off seeing people frolicking about whilst on furlough, while my husband works 12 hour days ? Also we have stuck to the rules throughout. I appreciate that he is lucky to have a job but he is worn out , not a break from the screen, has had shingles and eczema over the lockdown months, but still carries on without complaint. Meanwhile others ( some through no fault of their own ) are furloughed and having a jolly old time . And who will have to pay the furlough money ??? Us !! Makes me bloody angry.

I'm also a sen school worker as above and worked through.

Yes when summer was hot and I knew furloughed friends enjoying the beach it was hard.

But the opposite is now they are stuck indoors though the coldest winter we've had in years and some are starting to worry they'll have a job to go back to and are now struggling to survive on 80% of wages nearly a year down the line.

So I guess what it looks like to some isn't the truth and everyone has advantages and disadvantages to their situation.

My advantage is social contact through work, full pay and job security. My disadvantage is the increased risk I've faced.

If you support lockdown I don’t see how you can deny the need for furlough.

You can’t just forcibly shut down entire industries without adequate financial support. It’s deeply unfair and would have led to protests and opening up in defiance - rightly so.

What kind of an arse do you have to be to want people made unemployed instead?

@MotherExtraordinaire
no doubt these will be the same people who will bemoan about the repercussions in the decades to come, yet will be the only people who benefitted

Who says?? What an absolutely ignorant nasty, divisive comment. Talk about vilifying furlough people on top of everything else! Have we all got devil's horns as well then?

I think the people who will still be complaining in decades to come will be self-important, condescending twats like YOU.

Who exactly is having a jolly old time during all this?!

I'd hate to be furloughed. If I didn't go to work I'd literally go nowhere. It sucks for everybody.

@SaintGutFree

Who exactly is having a jolly old time during all this?!

I'm about to have a bowl of coco pops and watch an episode of Bridgerton, I'm living the dream (apart from not having a proper wage coming in and lying awake till 4am fretting about money, hence why I am very very kind to myself during the daylight hours).

@Drawmelikeoneofyourfrenchgirls

Sick of the folk making out like furlough is a holiday. Being on furlough for months, earning less money, struggling to make ends meet and not knowing if we will have jobs to go back to, yes great fun. Be thankful you have the security of a job you can continue to do thru all this, some of us are not so fortunate

Of course it's a blimming holiday. Have you missed all of the photos of those on furlough redecorating? Washing their cars? On picnics?At the beach? Now sledging in the snow?

If that's not a paid holiday, what is?

Yes all this bigger picture rubbish.... Now the chancellor wants to make self employed pay higher rates, thatis apparently unfair. They have had it good, for years, not paid anywheres close to what employees have yet expect to be subsidised.

Likewise those that worked in cafes etc. Yes or would be hard but we'd be paying less to them on benefits than on furlough. Then if the businesses survive they'd rehire at that time.
All we're doing is costing ourselves more by furloughing and kicking the problem further down the line. The mass unemployment is still going to happen. These businesses will still fold. But we could have handked it without putting a financial noose around our necks.
. Those that weren't around in the 80s,were going to have a repeat whether we furloughed or not!

I know the furloughed were seemingly having their time of their lives all last summer, whether on the beach or in their nice gardens, but I don't think they're still enjoying themselves as much now, surely?

@Mingkong how dare you?!?!? No one asked to be furloughed. I’d much rather be at work than skulking about at home. It’s not like you can go anywhere or do anything?? Rein yourself in. There’s people losing their jobs left right and centre. I’ve no idea if I’ll end up having a job to go back to. I didn’t ask for my industry to be shut down.

Go and have a word with yourself instead of furlough bashing people who never asked to be on furlough the first place.

@MotherExtraordinaire but what else is there to do? It’s no -ones fault if they are on furlough. No-one asked for their industry to close down. It’s not a bloody holiday having less money coming in and spending every day wondering if you’ll have a job to return to.

Those that weren't around in the 80s,were going to have a repeat whether we furloughed or not!

Hospitality will at least recover over time, the industries destroyed in the 80s didn't.

The worst thing will be the unsustainable debt the next generation will be saddled with to pay back all the furlough money and the track and trace billions etc.

I just thank my lucky stars that DH and I can continue working (albeit from home). I’d be bored stupid on furlough, working from home is boring enough!

@MotherExtraordinarie so you'd have turned furlough down then?

What is also being ignored is that businesses fail, 60% within the first 3 years. 20% not making it past their first year.

We are actually holding up many businesses that were going to and should have folded. That's the nature of the 660000 sme s that set up every year!

yes I always wash cars on holiday, I can't think of anything funner at all

Yeah I love being on furlough...

Love not being able to afford to pay my bills and treat my children.

Love not knowing when I can go back to work.

Love seeing my sector collapsing all around me knowing I could be next.

Yeah its great.

Fed up of posts like this.

This is not our chose. Everyone I know on furlough hates it. I would love to be considered a key worker and still be able to work.

I’d hate to be on furlough and I’m not saying that to sound smug, I mean it genuinely. I’d be worrying about whether my job was still going to be there at the end. I’m NHS so no such worries but I know a couple of people personally who are bricking it.

I was on the furlough the first time round for months, trust me I’d rather be working! It’s very depressing boring and there’s never ending anxiety about losing job, this was in the summer months aswell must be even worse for people now

I know someone furloughed for nearly a year, works for TUI. I'm jealous. It's not their fault though.
I'm a keyworker wfh pt. My jobs been absolutely awful massively increased load, no support. I'd kill for paid time off for months on end.

@MotherExtraordinaire I'm working and I still managed to go to the beach and go sledging. Those things aren't reserved for those on furlough. Get a grip.

[quote Waxonwaxoff0]@MotherExtraordinaire I'm working and I still managed to go to the beach and go sledging. Those things aren't reserved for those on furlough. Get a grip.[/quote]
yes perhaps someone needs to manage their time better.

Well, I'll be honest. If I'd been furloughed we'd be desperately struggling now. We can't live on 80% of my wages and that's the only one coming in.

Fortunately, I'm in a job where I've had to keep working throughout and it's very unlikely I'll lose my job. It's not been great, but better that than losing 1/5 of my income. We'd frankly be struggling to eat.

[quote LST]@MotherExtraordinarie so you'd have turned furlough down then?[/quote]
Conveniently not answering..

I'm pissed off that I work from home starting at 7:30am and my neighbours have partied most days until 2/3/4am for almost a year.
I'm sure my taxes will be increased soon to compensate for it, whilst I couldn't get a penny when I couldn't work in the first lockdown.

I have no issue with people being furloughed. It's a legitimate way of protecting jobs and incomes.

However there does seem to be a huge number of employers working their staff to the bone and making those staff feel that hare lucky to have a job so they need to put up with it.

It's a real pity that this mismatch hasn't created more job opportunities for those who have been made redundant rather than abusing the goodwill of those who want to retain their jobs.