Page 6 | If this takes five years

alfieum · 2021-02-10T12:43:36+00:00

I keep seeing people saying they are happy to wait as long as it takes. Are there really people on here who would live like this for two, five, ten years?

user1497207191 · 10/02/2021 15:23

[quote Seriouslymole]@Delatron - who knows? Time will tell but the NHS was not fit for purpose before this. Surely at some point there has to be some reform.[/quote]
Once Covid is under control, there will have to be some serious questions asked of the NHS, and I agree, some pretty significant reform will be the outcome. Now isn't the time to take NHS management to task, but that day will come. And, no, it's not all about funding etc.

goldfinchfan · 10/02/2021 15:24

the people who say that it is long enough now, would not have managed through WW2.
Would htey have simply said yes to Hitler just so they could have their normal mumdane lives back?

We still have to get to grips with the Climate Crisis and most people's attitude is just too selfish

Also if there was a "final" wave there wouldn't be much of normal life left......people will be ill or dead leaving gaping holes in society.

I had Covid it was most definitely NOT like a cold or flu and I still have Long Covid.

StarCourt · 10/02/2021 15:25

I really don't want to think about it to be honest, I'm a single parent with no bubble and a DD12 who hasn't spent more than 8 weeks at school in the past 11 months.
The first 6 months or so of Covid weren't too bad. But at the moment I'm struggling badly and really need some light at the end Of the tunnel

Suzi888 · 10/02/2021 15:25

If mine doesn’t go back on the 22nd, I’ll take up a key worker place. Have coped ok until now as my DM has DD once a week and my DH another day whilst I go to work and take the calls that I should be taking every day. It’s not appropriate for me to carry on like this. Roll on summer, at least that’ll be a bit more freedom.
I’m ‘lucky’ compared to some and mentally fairly resilient, but I feel for those that aren’t coping very well.
Boris is releasing a series of dates later of when things can be unlocked and I hope that gives some people hope. This needs to be over sooner rather than later, whatever the costs at some point.

OliveTree75 · 10/02/2021 15:27

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110APiccadilly · 10/02/2021 15:33

@TheKeatingFive

I presume anyone saying yes to this doesn’t have older relatives they’re close to. 5 years is a lot of time to not see people in their 70s.

For me, no way.

This.

I don't expect my gran to be alive in five years' time. Another elderly relative is dying and I'm desperately hoping the timescale of that will permit me to see her (and introduce my daughter, the first of the next generation of the family, to her).

"Don't kill granny," is all very well, but how many will carry on following it as it turns into, "Probably never see granny again?"

Babyroobs · 10/02/2021 15:37

People can't go five years without a routine dental check up or a hair cut surely. Some things will have to resume in some capacity.

Shodan · 10/02/2021 15:45

the people who say that it is long enough now, would not have managed through WW2

This trite trope about WW2 has been so overused.

The unimaginative need to find another comparison to try to bolster their point.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/02/2021 15:50

@Shodan

the people who say that it is long enough now, would not have managed through WW2

This trite trope about WW2 has been so overused.

The unimaginative need to find another comparison to try to bolster their point.

I was told I was ridiculous and blocked on Twitter for arguing this point. They couldn’t seem to understand that it’s not the same and apparently it’s nowhere near as bad now as you don’t run the risk of a bomb dropping on you in the middle of the night

IcedPurple · 10/02/2021 16:00

We still have to get to grips with the Climate Crisis and most people's attitude is just too selfish

I presume you never had kids then?

Don't drive a car?

Do all your laundry by hand, with cold water?

Give over with the "Anybody who isn't exactly like me is 'selfish'" nonsense. That got old 10 months ago.

RedskyBynight · 10/02/2021 16:14

@Babyroobs

People can't go five years without a routine dental check up or a hair cut surely. Some things will have to resume in some capacity.

More importantly, people can't go without non-emergency but life impacting health care. And if the NHS continues to be swamped with Covid patients, they won't get it. Or we have to take a hardline on treatment of Covid patients (i.e. define who gets it) that no one wants to do.

(Dentists are still open! I have a routine check up next week).

GoldenPenPot · 10/02/2021 16:14

My grandmother is 87 years old and although she’s not unwell, I’ve pretty much resigned myself to the fact there’s a decent likelihood that I’ll never see her again. She lives about 40 miles away so not possible to pop round and stand at the end of the path and her hearing is too bad to talk on the phone. Hopefully I’m wrong (and she goes on for another 10 years) but if not, what a shit way to spend her final year.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/02/2021 16:15

(Dentists are still open! I have a routine check up next week).

Lucky you. My NHS dentist has disappeared off the face of the earth.

Butterymuffin · 10/02/2021 16:17

It won't take five years! Bloody hell. People are only saying 'as long as it takes' because some folk are getting shirty about anything past 8th March! Jesus. Not helpful.

nordica · 10/02/2021 16:24

It hasn't been "like this" for most of the past year - I realise some parts of the country had tougher restrictions than others but in many areas people were socialising indoors and out late summer/early autumn.

I'd be fine with some restrictions in place but of course there's a huge difference between being able to visit the dentist vs getting your nails done... Visiting friends or family two hours away vs going on a foreign holiday, and so on.

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 10/02/2021 16:27

No fucking way.

namechangerforthisconfessionn · 10/02/2021 16:31

Apart from pub and hair done I'm living fairly normal, so sick of it all, me and my friends have all had Covid so not a massive risk, still get nails done, see family, friends, etc and I won't be going back to 2020 life is too short

namechangerforthisconfessionn · 10/02/2021 16:33

@GoldenPenPot

My grandmother is 87 years old and although she’s not unwell, I’ve pretty much resigned myself to the fact there’s a decent likelihood that I’ll never see her again. She lives about 40 miles away so not possible to pop round and stand at the end of the path and her hearing is too bad to talk on the phone. Hopefully I’m wrong (and she goes on for another 10 years) but if not, what a shit way to spend her final year.

I'd isolate for 2 weeks then go and see her if she wants you too. An elderly relative of mine (early 80's) said she'd rather live normal life and die of Covid than isolate from all family and die alone of old age and her words 'ain't getting younger we all gonna die' so we see her as she wants

Donoteatthekittens · 10/02/2021 18:58

I think if they were told to, most Mumsnetters would live like this forever. This is the site where nobody answers the door to unexpected callers, is no contact with family and boasts that they have friends!

Oh and has a nice WFH job on a “six figure salary.”

Back in the real world...

peak2021 · 10/02/2021 19:01

I don't know anyone who would be prepared to wait five years, nor anyone who expects it to. Plenty who don't expect to go abroad for a holiday this year, that's about all.

Katie517 · 10/02/2021 20:44

The people saying this are idiots, sorry but they really are. They are probably well off with families happy working from home and baking at weekends never having to run the risk of being in a social setting again. They are relishing in the fact that their once boring empty lives are now the norm. Sane people won’t stand for it longer than spring and when furlough ends more people will start getting angry.

I am privileged in the fact that covid hasn’t affected me financially we have a nice big house with plenty of outdoor space but I detest lockdown and the impact it is having on me let alone those less fortunate than me. My life was full, I loved it and I want it back. I want my 6 month old to experience all the things they would if they had been born in any normal year and to live in a world where seeing both sets of grandparents isn’t illegal and where they can sit down and play with another child or heaven forbid have the luxury of taking them swimming. So no I won’t be giving It as long as it takes we have sacrificed enough now.

Lelophants · 10/02/2021 20:47

These types of threads pop up every other day. No, op. No one wants this to last forever. We want this the fuck over with as soon as possible. Constantly breaking the rules and letting new variants in from abroad, overwhelming our hospitals so I can't get any treatment? Not great. Not going to make it better any faster.

Lelophants · 10/02/2021 20:48

It annoys me posters go on about how people love it. No, I hate it. However:

Saying I want all restrictions over now will NOT stop it. It's been nearly a year now, you must realise that it's real and a massive issue.

Why does acknowledging the truth mean we want it?

Lelophants · 10/02/2021 20:51

@Katie517

The people saying this are idiots, sorry but they really are. They are probably well off with families happy working from home and baking at weekends never having to run the risk of being in a social setting again. They are relishing in the fact that their once boring empty lives are now the norm. Sane people won’t stand for it longer than spring and when furlough ends more people will start getting angry.

I am privileged in the fact that covid hasn’t affected me financially we have a nice big house with plenty of outdoor space but I detest lockdown and the impact it is having on me let alone those less fortunate than me. My life was full, I loved it and I want it back. I want my 6 month old to experience all the things they would if they had been born in any normal year and to live in a world where seeing both sets of grandparents isn’t illegal and where they can sit down and play with another child or heaven forbid have the luxury of taking them swimming. So no I won’t be giving It as long as it takes we have sacrificed enough now.

Yes but this doesn't change the fact there is a coronavirus raging around the country. If there was a massive tsunami would you go "right! That's it! The tsunami better stop because I'm done with water!" And not expext to drown?

Katie517 · 10/02/2021 21:15

@Lelophants your analogy is awful.

A tsunami hitting me is likely to kill me and most who come into contact with it. A coronavirus isn’t “raging” around the country a mild illness to most is spreading primarily in health and care settings. The majority of people who catch it now experience a very mild illness once, the vaccines are out nearly everyone will get a very mild illness. Hardly the same as a tsunami. Also would you choose to never live or visit close to the ocean incase a tsunami were to hit?! No would you get on with your life and if a tsunami did hit it would be unfortunate but at least you hadn’t spent your life existing in fear just incase. This notion that we need to live life without risk is unattainable.