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If this takes five years

153 replies

alfieum · 10/02/2021 12:43

I keep seeing people saying they are happy to wait as long as it takes. Are there really people on here who would live like this for two, five, ten years?

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LadyCatStark · 10/02/2021 13:25

Absolutely not. I’m also scared about how society is becoming. Someone on a previous thread said, ‘We’ll have to lockdown again on winter when flu and norovirus season hits.’ So now we lockdown for everything??

DS went into lockdown ages nearly 11, in 5 years he’ll me nearly 16. He is not going to spend some of the most important years of his childhood locked away!

MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 10/02/2021 13:25

I've had Covid-19. I felt a bit crap for a few days. The majority of people who get it will be like me.

So stop with the scaremongering Pyewhacket.

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 10/02/2021 13:27

@AuntieStella

Why is it so wrong to want measures to last for as long as they need?

Do you mean you would prefer an uncontrolled final wave?

Yes I would! I would because the catastrophic affects on the economy, our children’s health, all the other illnesses being delayed treatment is going to make covid pale in significance
MilkTwoSugarsThanks · 10/02/2021 13:28

Why is it so wrong to want measures to last for as long as they need?

Because people are losing their jobs and their homes! Are people really too thick to see this?

Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 10/02/2021 13:28

I believe the restrictions in place at the moment are necessary.

I don't believe restrictions will be necessary for the next 5 years, because a) vaccines b) booster vaccines to fight new strains (as we have with the flu c) a certain amount of herd immunity d)better treatments which are being developed all the time.

So for me the question is a bit irrelevant.

Cloudsurfing · 10/02/2021 13:29

No. I'm waiting until spring and then that's it. Obviously I'll stick to the in-public restrictions as I'll have no choice, but I'm seeing friends and family. There is no way I'll comply for years more.

DianaT1969 · 10/02/2021 13:29

You can't just decide when it ends based on your feelings.
How does you being bored and fed up free up space for heart attack victims in hospital if they are overrun with Covid patients. How does your boredom make it possible for Brits to fly to other countries for holidays and see family if they won't let us in? If the UK is rampant with more varients of Covid, how does that get our tourism economy back? Or help the airlines start again?
You are a spec of sand. It's a global situation.

CaughtInTheCovid · 10/02/2021 13:29

@AuntieStella

Why is it so wrong to want measures to last for as long as they need?

Do you mean you would prefer an uncontrolled final wave?

Many people would prefer that. Yes it would be awful, lots of deaths and cripple nhs. But then it would be over.
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/02/2021 13:30

@Cloudsurfing

No. I'm waiting until spring and then that's it. Obviously I'll stick to the in-public restrictions as I'll have no choice, but I'm seeing friends and family. There is no way I'll comply for years more.
This.
Iremembertheelderlykoreanlady · 10/02/2021 13:31

*AuntieStella

Why is it so wrong to want measures to last for as long as they need?

Do you mean you would prefer an uncontrolled final wave?

Yes I would!
I would because the catastrophic affects on the economy, our children’s health, all the other illnesses being delayed treatment is going to make covid pale in significance*

You would feel differently if, in the midst of this theoretical final wave, you or one of your family was in a car accident, had appencitis, had cancer symptoms and were unable to get a diagnosis and treatment.

Hospitals overwhelmed with covid = hospitals unable to deal with anything else

I can't believe this has been going on for this long and people still don't get this.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 10/02/2021 13:31

You don't want to get Covid, you really don't. Believe me

Eh? I had it a couple of weeks ago. I've had worse colds.

My mum had it in October, she's 76. She was 'off' for 2/3 days.

My sister had it in October. Mid-fifties. She has reduced lung capacity as a result of the pneumonia she contracted after catching good old fashioned 'flu a few years ago. She was ill for around 5 days.

My nephew had it in October. He has multiple seriously life-limiting disabilities. He was asymptomatic.

Don't come out with crap like this. For the majority, it's a mild illness.

DianaT1969 · 10/02/2021 13:33

Are you going to put a gun to your local pub owner's head and make him open? Kidnap a beautician?
The only rule breaking you can do is pop round to your auntie Susie's for a prosecco and host a kids play date. Businesses are waiting to open because they have no choice.

o8O8O8o · 10/02/2021 13:34

to effectively make it illegal to start a new relationship. It goes too far. This is minimal contact with other people, it's not 700 people at a rave. The consequences and impacts on mental health are too much for this to be in any way reasonable
I agree and the real reason they had to go so far with because they had previously defunded and hollowed out the NHS
They have sacrificed us and our private lives in order to TRY and save face

MoirasRoses · 10/02/2021 13:34

I wouldn’t worry OP. Boris is in charge. Everything will be open again by May 😂

Aposterhasnoname · 10/02/2021 13:34

No way, I’m done now. I’ve quietly followed all the rules but if there’s no holidays, even in the uk this summer and lockdown again in Autumn I’ll be on the streets protesting. Enough!

AuntieStella · 10/02/2021 13:34

Yes it would be awful, lots of deaths and cripple nhs. But then it would be over

That's scary

And of course it would not be over, because it would be the same thing with every vaccine resistant new variant, because of less experience in using restrictions for the required effect (minimising other damage) and from a position of far greater social and economic damage.

Good way to make sure the rich survive at the expense of others though (after age, death rates correlate strongly with deprivation)

Except of course crippling NHS means anyone could be dying of anything as nothing would be happening safely.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/02/2021 13:35

@DianaT1969 Do you not think hairdressers and beauticians etc will just start going to peoples' homes to work as opposed to losing their livelihoods completely?

Delatron · 10/02/2021 13:35

Why will the hospitals be overwhelmed when all the vaccines have shown to stop serious illness and hospitalisation? Even against variants.

This will then become a mild illness, moderate at worst for all people who have had the vaccine.

For the small percentage that can’t or won’t and then become seriously ill we won’t be in the same situation as we have been. Because we have vaccines. We have many vaccines. And new treatments are being developed too.
All the time.

TwirpingBird · 10/02/2021 13:35

Most people I know IRL wont be doing this past mid March. People on MN seem all set to save the world through personal sacrifice for 'as long as is necessary'.

o8O8O8o · 10/02/2021 13:36

Yes it would be awful, lots of deaths and cripple nhs. But then it would be over
When you say 'then it would be over' are you sure?
what makes you think that?

DianaT1969 · 10/02/2021 13:37

@Lucille - yes, it is mild for most. But for every person you mentioned, there will be people who know others who died, are seriously ill, or have long Covid. Someone knows the 1,000 people reported dead yesterday. Someone knows the 100,000 people who died from or with Covid.
You pop round your cousin Valerie's, but don't negate the seriousness of a novel virus in a pandemic.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 10/02/2021 13:37

@DianaT1969

Are you going to put a gun to your local pub owner's head and make him open? Kidnap a beautician? The only rule breaking you can do is pop round to your auntie Susie's for a prosecco and host a kids play date. Businesses are waiting to open because they have no choice.
That's obviously what people will do though? See their friends and family again. Because we're human beings, we are social creatures, we need to be with people we care about.

Of course if you want to reduce us all to 'specs of sand' and so insignificant, why should we continue with restrictions to protect all the other 'specs of sand' who we don't even know?

LookToTreblesGoingTreblesGone · 10/02/2021 13:38

Historically, pandemics take about 2 years to run their course.

Linearpark · 10/02/2021 13:38

You have to be kidding AuntieStella when you say:

"I am happy to have restrictions for as long as it takes, provided there is, as now, of scientific evidence (emerging) and explanations of policy,"

Please link to evidence for masks, social distancing, and/or lockdowns working (rather than Whitty just saying they do).

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alfieum · 10/02/2021 13:39

Pyewhacket I have had covid while in the third trimester, my CEV daughter has had it, we are recovered. My MIL has been hospitalised, I have lost family.It doesn't make me question how ling people are willing to live under these restrictions.

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