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Is anyone actually going to follow the rules from spring?

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Cloudsurfing · 08/02/2021 22:01

It will have been a year since being allowed to properly see friends and family. Even in summer last year you still had to social distance so seeing family was difficult, and some areas had tighter restrictions throughout. Everyone I know is going to see family and friends from spring, regardless of what restrictions there are. I am too. The government do know that most people won’t stick to it from then, right?

Is anyone on here actually going to not see family at that point? I know Mumsnet seems to be full of people who are happy to isolate for years if need be, but are you actually going to?

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LucilleTheVampireBat · 09/02/2021 15:58

Just because the NHS has failed you in the past doesnt mean we should sit back and let it get to a point where it fails everybody

Every single restriction on my life right now is because I have been handed the responsibility of 'saving' the NHS. Thousands upon thousands of people have been failed by the NHS, pre-Covid.

The NHS isn't my responsibility. If a National Health Service, created to care for sick people, isn't capable of caring for sick people then why does the burden for this fall to me? It hasn't been capable for years. Only this time it appears I am being told it is my fault, and my job is now to save it. How can I be expected to accept that and just ignore the fact that every single year without fail there are relentless stories and headlines about the latest winter crisis, with photos of people dieing on trolleys in corridors and children on the floor in A & E - every year going back a long time now. This year though, I am expected to happily shoulder the responsibility and solve the problem by giving up everything.

If I say no, hang on, I want my life back, then i'm called a murderer, or a selfish weakling, or 'evil'.

ScrumpyBetty · 09/02/2021 16:02

I have read the full thread and agree with everything @TheKeatingFive says!

My parents were vaccinated last week. I was vaccinated in January. I will be visiting them in a few weeks. Covid isn't the only thing, we have all lost sight of everything else and the cost of these lockdowns will be immense- we cannot carry on like this indefinitely.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/02/2021 16:04

Very well put, Lucille
You've got to admit it's a neat political trick though - take a taxpayer-funded institution, neglect both targeted funding and mismanagement until it's not sustainable any more, then find a way to blame the public so they can be persuaded to shore it up just a little longer before its final collapse

TheKeatingFive · 09/02/2021 16:05

What lucille said.

The average person should not be required to give up contact with their friends and family to save a health service that was falling apart anyway.

Lollipop1234 · 09/02/2021 16:05

“Or am I missing something?”

If you find out what it is can you please tell me too as I feel the same!”

Snowsnowglorioussnow · 09/02/2021 16:05

Happy to stay locked down for years...

No, I don't want to be locked down for years which is why I'd like to stay locked down until its surpressed to a large degree and millions more are vaccinated.

clockstopper · 09/02/2021 16:05

@ineedaholidaynow: I'm assuming some people's mental health has been impacted after losing relatives to COVID or if you are suffering from long COVID

I’m sure that is true for some people. There are also others who have been impacted by isolation and loneliness, traumatic events caused by lockdown and having no support

Or both which is the case for a couple of people who I know.

Snowsnowglorioussnow · 09/02/2021 16:09
  • Lucille saving the NHS is time critical for now, no health care service in the world can cope when demand exceeds supply. The idea is to keep out of it but if you do need it, you should be given the very best care not substandard life threatening care purely because its over run. ^* it's not a political issue, it was hugely problematic under Labour.

^* it needs to be overhauled not have endless money thrown at it.

RC000 · 09/02/2021 16:11

@icedpurple yes I am judgemental with regards to this. It's a global pandemic and the more people mix before it is safe to so so, this bloody thing goes on and on.

forinborin · 09/02/2021 16:11

I really hope my parents could fly in and see me and their grandchildren without paying ridiculous amounts for private tests here or having to spend £3.5k on a covid hotel. Every mention of "close the borderrrrssss!" fills me with dread.

Moon22 · 09/02/2021 16:14

Yes I shall be following the rules. It would kill me if I didn't and then someone in my circle got sick and died. Alone. On a ventilator.
I hope we have some normality come Spring time.

SeldomFollowedIt · 09/02/2021 16:20

Absolutely fucking not

Mreggsworth · 09/02/2021 16:22

@LucilleTheVampireBat

No health system in the world would be prepared to handle a virus that is going through our country the way it is without a collective effort from everyone to slow the spread. The NHS is staffed by human beings, not robots. They get sick, overwhelmed, burnt out and when those things happen they quit or become incapable of doing their jobs properly. And if there were not restrictions put in place to support those human beings in being able to carry out their work we wouldnt have an NHS at all now. And I guarantee that would be significantly more of crisis than having to put your life on hold.

I'm not saying it isnt a fault of the government at all, they did underfund the NHS, but saying 'well the NHS should be there to provide for us so it's not my problem' is a big slap in the face to those NHS staff who are working tirelessly to save lives and have been put under unimaginable stress.

febbfad · 09/02/2021 16:27

I find the frequency of stupidity and selfishness alarming. I hate that I have to live in a society with these people after, it's terrifying. So many horrible people.

gottakeeponmovin · 09/02/2021 16:27

No

TheKeatingFive · 09/02/2021 16:30

So many horrible people.

Horrible because ... they want to see their loved ones? Confused

VinylDetective · 09/02/2021 16:33

@TheKeatingFive

Everyone saying they're not going to follow the rules needs to stop going on about how "it's different for them because of x y and z" and read the above.

Well as I’m waiting until my parents are vaxxed (and the time afterwards for immunity to build) it is different for me. Or am I missing something?

We’re doing the same. I’m expecting my first vaccination by the end of this month, the bloke’s a group behind me and, once we’ve both been done three weeks, all bets are off. We have four adult kids to catch up with and a three month old granddaughter to cuddle.
LizzieSiddal · 09/02/2021 16:36

I find the frequency of stupidity and selfishness alarming. I hate that I have to live in a society with these people after, it's terrifying. So many horrible people

I agree, stupidity sums it up.

GetOffYourHighHorse · 09/02/2021 16:39

'The NHS isn't my responsibility. If a National Health Service, created to care for sick people, isn't capable of caring for sick people then why does the burden for this fall to me? It hasn't been capable for years. Only this time it appears I am being told it is my fault, and my job is now to save it.'

It is capable of caring for sick people however when the demand trebles then this puts massive pressure on it. I've family and friends working in the nhs and my sympathies lie with them.

The burden doesn't 'fall to you' and you alone rather us all together. For the trillionth time this is happening all over Europe it isn't just precious flakey Brits having restrictions. Honestly it's like trying to reason with a bunch of sulky teens. The ones saying they will ignore from March I bet are ignoring rules now, they just need others to say 'aw it's ok hun, me too'.

ClaudiaWankleman · 09/02/2021 16:42

The burden doesn't 'fall to you' and you alone rather us all together

What’s the qualitative difference or effect on any of our lives between the two? We are all in forced isolation so there is no ‘all together’ about it.

Chwaraeteg · 09/02/2021 16:42

Nope. I haven't seen my family in over a year already and we've had some pretty traumatic events in our family. I am done with his shit. If locksown hasn't worked in a year then it isn't bloody working.

Half if my family have already had covid anyway and the 2 ecv members haven't been able to afford to isolate during this time anyway (my dad, who is an agency worker and my daughter - neither me or her dad have been eligible for furlough during this timw as we are public sector).

I firmly believe that lockdown has really onlt benefitted the middle-classes. People in low paid, public facing jobs have been put at risk regardless. I would rather put myself at risk to see my family than go to work.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 09/02/2021 16:45

Saying 'well the NHS should be there to provide for us so it's not my problem' is a big slap in the face to those NHS staff who are working tirelessly to save lives and have been put under unimaginable stress

Only if they take every single criticism personally, and I'm not sure why they'd do that?

After all idiotic management decisions are hardly the fault of front line staff, and avoiding the hard questions because of possible "hurt feelings" seems to me a dangerous road to go down, especially when they've been avoided long enough because of the NHS's sacred cow status

LizzieSiddal · 09/02/2021 16:48

I just feel so sorry for any NHS looking at this thread. They are in their knees and need people to follow the rules. Those who aren’t going to will man NHS frontline staff will continue to be traumatised and on their knees. But hey, you’ll beable to hug your mum so that makes it ok. Hmm

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 09/02/2021 16:53

So you (especially if you are lucky enough to have had the vaccine) will do exactly what you like and I (a teacher, unvaccinated) will be expected to stand in a room with your children (who will been dragged around to see every family member /friend you can think of) and risk my health? And nurses and doctors have to suck up the workload your decisions cost them?

And you say TEACHERS are selfish and can’t believe I’d want the vaccine before I want to be in a room with your children (contact chain 89,386 in one weekend). Bloody hell.

ClaudiaWankleman · 09/02/2021 16:53

But hey, you’ll beable to hug your mum so that makes it ok

One day you’ll have a flashback to writing that and realise how awful it is to mock people for wanting to show love and affection to their parent.