Poll on compulsory covid vaccination in 2021-2023

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I don't know what real policy will be, I just wondered about gauging the range of views of readers on this board (chance for lurkers to reply). I will summarise replies if more than 20. Which of the below policies is closest to your own preference, about what the covid vaccination policy should be, for UK adults in 2021-2023?

1. Optional for everyone, not required by any employer or for customers of a business to show evidence or "reasonable excuse" not to have had it

2. Not compulsory for all, but health and social care employers can legally require the jab for staff who work with any clinically vulnerable; refusal would be permitted grounds for dismissal if jab not medically contra-indicated

3. Not compulsory for all, but any employers allowed to require the jab for staff (refusal would be permitted grounds for dismissal); businesses allowed to require jab among customers, thus no jab = legally refuse service

4. Compulsory for all adults without medical contra-indications

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Maybe not for current staff, but for new hires. There are already various vaccinations required to become a doctor (or even to study medicine), so I wouldn't be surprised if covid was added to this list.

I'd say we'll go towards 3 and I very much hope we do, tbh. People have the right not to be vaccinated if they don't want to be. But the rest of us also have rights to not want to be endangered by them. And if anything the right not to be endangered by morons has to trump the right to be a moron.

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1. Very very pro vax but still think No.1

However belonging to a BAME background, I'm strongly pushing all my family members, friends and other relatives to get vaccinated when it's their turn and provide all the information needed if they feel a bit anxious about efficacy, rushed vaccine questions or just not trusting the "vaccine propaganda". I've realised with my family and friends those who initially didn't want to take the vaccine just lacked the right information to educate themselves more about all aspects of the covid19 vaccines we currently have in the Uk and once they do have access to that information, they feel reassured.

1 without a shadow of doubt.

I agree most with 2 - but for new joiners to organisations not compulsory for existing employees. And I think this is fairly likely.

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Anything else is a very slippery slope imo.

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Yes to body autonomy, you have the right to not have the vaccination. But others have the right to not have their lives endangered by your choices. So the consequence to your choice not to vaccinate us that you won't be able to do certain things, because doing so would endanger others. Medical exemptions excepted, obviously. Perfectly reasonable.

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2 for me.

@alittleprivacy

I'd say we'll go towards 3 and I very much hope we do, tbh. People have the right not to be vaccinated if they don't want to be. But the rest of us also have rights to not want to be endangered by them. And if anything the right not to be endangered by morons has to trump the right to be a moron.

But if I have the vaccination how am I endangered by you not having it?

Answer: I am not. The vaccine isn't 100% effective but with most people having it (and they will) the risks will be minute.

People should have the vaccine themselves and take responsibility for their own health and stop worrying about what other people are doing,

@Tanith

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Anything else is a very slippery slope imo.

To be honest (2) is already the case for healthcare staff for some illnesses like hepatitis.

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I thought 3s would be bigger %.
I consistently rounded down, eg for those stuck between 2 & 3, I put you in group 2. If you said your ideal was 4 but acceptable was 3: I put you in 4. It's what you want.
Anyway, so far, allowing for medical contraindications, to 15:36 hrs, a perfect 100 responses(!)

1 all optional, 57%
2 effectively compulsory for just H&SC staff, 7%
3 effectively compulsory for many jobs/services, 23%
4 compulsory all, 13%

Fairly polarised. We knew that.

*But if I have the vaccination how am I endangered by you not having it?

Answer: I am not. The vaccine isn't 100% effective but with most people having it (and they will) the risks will be minute.

People should have the vaccine themselves and take responsibility for their own health and stop worrying about what other people are doing,*

This. Some of the treads on the vaccine are bordering on the absurd. There are some posters who would like everyone rounded up by gun point and injected.

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