Poll on compulsory covid vaccination in 2021-2023

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I don't know what real policy will be, I just wondered about gauging the range of views of readers on this board (chance for lurkers to reply). I will summarise replies if more than 20. Which of the below policies is closest to your own preference, about what the covid vaccination policy should be, for UK adults in 2021-2023?

1. Optional for everyone, not required by any employer or for customers of a business to show evidence or "reasonable excuse" not to have had it

2. Not compulsory for all, but health and social care employers can legally require the jab for staff who work with any clinically vulnerable; refusal would be permitted grounds for dismissal if jab not medically contra-indicated

3. Not compulsory for all, but any employers allowed to require the jab for staff (refusal would be permitted grounds for dismissal); businesses allowed to require jab among customers, thus no jab = legally refuse service

4. Compulsory for all adults without medical contra-indications

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Small.pox vaccine was compulsory. That also caused a lot of complaints

In the us some states refuse a school place if the child is not up to date with vaccines

My preference re the op is 2 or 3. I notice most people have put 1 or 4 ( probably fewer 4s to be fair) which is an indication of how black and white a lot of people are and how divisive this issue could be.

I choose 3

Why is it horrifying? What world would you like to live in where you had no choice in what to do to your own body?

3 would give a choice of whether to have it. However, it does involve accepting the consequences of being barred from some aspects of everyday life.
This puts the burden of unpleasant (but different) consequences on those choosing not to have the vaccine, rather than on those that choose to want individuals and the wider society to be better protected.

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3

I'm stuck between 1 and 2. I believe everyone should have a choice with vaccinations, but working with vulnerable people brings responsibilities. Perhaps it should be that vaccines (unless not medically advisable) and PPE are included as mandatory when required by the employer, but only in future contracts, so people can choose not to take the role if they aren't willing to keep others safe.

2 or 3, employers have a right to discern what is safe in their working environment IMO. Bodily autonomy doesn't mean dinner ladies are allowed to work without hairnets.

@MadinMarch but like I said up thread, 3 doesn't give you a choice. Not if you want to keep your job etc. So it's compulsory by the back door.

There is really no choice in it. You can dress it up however you like but we all have to work and access things. So you would have to have the vaccine to be able to live a normal life.

1. I am a big believer in vaccines, but, it must be a personal choice.

Ideally 4, but I doubt that will happen so 3.

Lots of 1s, but I think people need to understand that there are consequences to their decision and companies have a right to mitigate risk, which unvaccinated people may be.

3

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3, unless contraindicated by GP

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@Fuckadoodledoooo

Yes, I appreciate that it would be a very difficult choice indeed. It could mean a change of employment and other fundamental things that we all consider a right.

One of my concerns if Covid isn't brought under control is that the virus could mutate in due course and children could become equally as vulnerable to it.

[quote MyDcAreMarvel]@AquaFairySoul yes I would be happy for you to force me to save the lives of others if I was too selfish to do so.[/quote]
Off you go then, there are plenty of people waiting for a kidney and you can donate a chunk of your liver while you're there. Maybe throw in a couple of pints of blood while you're at it.

4 but can't see that happening. 3 gives people a choice, but also means employers and businesses can protect their staff and employees from unvaccinated people.

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I have had all vaccines as have my DC's but same as PPs bodily autonomy must come first and I agree it will feed in to anti vaxxers and convince any on the fence that there's something to fear

But I reserve the right to insist (as I have LPA) that any person in close contact with my very vulnerable relative is vaccinated against Covid. It's all about choice.

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