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Poll on compulsory covid vaccination in 2021-2023

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lljkk · 06/02/2021 12:41

I don't know what real policy will be, I just wondered about gauging the range of views of readers on this board (chance for lurkers to reply). I will summarise replies if more than 20. Which of the below policies is closest to your own preference, about what the covid vaccination policy should be, for UK adults in 2021-2023?

Optional for everyone, not required by any employer or for customers of a business to show evidence or "reasonable excuse" not to have had it
Not compulsory for all, but health and social care employers can legally require the jab for staff who work with any clinically vulnerable; refusal would be permitted grounds for dismissal if jab not medically contra-indicated
Not compulsory for all, but any employers allowed to require the jab for staff (refusal would be permitted grounds for dismissal); businesses allowed to require jab among customers, thus no jab = legally refuse service
Compulsory for all adults without medical contra-indications

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Barnicus · 07/02/2021 00:05

1 - 100%

I am not in any way anti vax. Both myself and dc have had all required vaccinations.

I never (nor dc) get the flu vaccine - although I am very strongly encouraged to every year through my work. I see this in much the same way (I know covid isn't flu) in that it will be a vaccine that is required every year due to various strains mutations and while I'm reasonably young(ish), fit(ish) and healthy I find it a bit unnecessary.

In saying that I will get it when offered (this year anyway) although I suspect vaccine passports will become a thing and that's not really something I'm overly comfortable with.

sunflowertulip · 07/02/2021 00:17

3 (excluding anyone who medically can't receive it.) I think it will be impossible to enforce for anyone currently employed but could be part of new employment contracts going forward.

Badgerstmary · 07/02/2021 00:18

Pinetreesfall · 07/02/2021 00:25

absolutely

MercyBooth · 07/02/2021 00:28

Of course all the ones on here who think saving the lives of others is so important has never voted for the removal of disability benefits and other benefit cuts which have led to deaths right?

MadameBlobby · 07/02/2021 00:36

@MercyBooth

Of course all the ones on here who think saving the lives of others is so important has never voted for the removal of disability benefits and other benefit cuts which have led to deaths right?

I certainly haven’t

ParlezVousWronglais · 07/02/2021 00:36

We’ve had far worse illnesses and not made vaccinations mandatory so it makes no sense to do that.

It would have to be a really lethal disease for me to support compulsory vaccination ie perhaps something that was an existential threat or thereabouts.

boredsolicitor · 07/02/2021 00:39

3
I fail to see how anyone can be a carer or work in health if they expose vulnerable patients to Covid because they can't be arsed to have a harmless jab - selfish gits!

ilovesooty · 07/02/2021 00:47

@MercyBooth

Of course all the ones on here who think saving the lives of others is so important has never voted for the removal of disability benefits and other benefit cuts which have led to deaths right?

No I haven't.

TheSmallAssassin · 07/02/2021 00:49

I will get vaccinated, but it should never be compulsory, I don't want to live in an authoritarian state or society for any reason. If you do a good enough job of persuading people that it's the right thing to do then you won't have to compel people anyway.

Pissedoff1234 · 07/02/2021 00:49

I am going for 1 but I don't believe we should all still shut down to protect those who don't want one.

Once everyone has been given that choice then we need to open up.

Pissedoff1234 · 07/02/2021 00:50

I have already had my first vaccine btw.

SandAndSea · 07/02/2021 00:50

AquaFairySoul · 07/02/2021 01:03

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants gosh your a snippy one aren't you.

1234323user · 07/02/2021 06:51

@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants just out of interest, (as I genuinely think I must be missing something), how does choice 1 "put others at risk"? From day 1 it has been made very clear that the jab does not stop you from contracting COVID and, more importantly, does not stop you passing it on. It "may" stop you from having symptoms as bad.

For reference, I intend to get the vaccine when I have the choice, simply to try and do my bit towards getting back to normality.

Oversize · 07/02/2021 07:00

You need a different option for 2. Existing staff can make up their own minds but new staff can be required to have/have had the jab as a requisite for the role unless contra indicated.

Grannycurls · 07/02/2021 07:01

@ilovesooty

I can't understand someone lying to make life easier. If you feel strongly about refusing a vaccine I don't see you wouldn't own it. I can understand not wanting to discuss it but I simply cannot understand lying.

Easy-peasy.

You can feel strongly about something for yourself, but have absolutely no need to broadcast your views to others who feel just as strongly about the opposing view: as the pro-vaccine folk do.

Or, maybe you don't believe in arguing about something when you know you won't change any minds. Or maybe you don't want to lecture people. Or maybe you don't want to bring conflict into a happy conversation among friends.

In the latter case, for instance, I was having a Skype call with a couple of ladies the other day who were chatting gaily about "when" they were going to get the covid vaccine. They just assumed I agreed with them, so I simply said nothing.

On another Skype call recently, one of those ladies said, "so have you all had your fly vaccine yet?" and all chirped in with "yes" or "next week" etc. Again, I said nothing, as I've never had a flu jab and never will.

It's really quite easy, and a good thing, to avoid conflict if it makes people feel better. If I feel strongly about not having the Covid vaccine for myself there's no reason in the world for my friends and relatives to know that, and I have no need to persuade them otherwise. My arguments would just augment their fear and panic, and I don't want that.

One of my cousins said the other day on FB that she broke out in tears of joy when she got the vaccine, and posted a photo of herself getting it. About 60 of our friends and relatives chimed in with likes and loves and congratulatory comments, and I said nothing. I'm sure she didn't even notice that my "like" or "congratulations!" was missing!

It's really easy to merge with the crowd in an unpopular decision, if that decision really makes no difference other than sow discord.

And before someone says I'm a bad person, a terrible person (as I was told the other day on another thread) for having this OPINION; or because I might give them Covid, let me say this: if I were Covid positive, or had symptoms, of course I would stay at home, until I recovered completely. That's a no-brainer.

Would I even lie about it? I would, if doing so would keep the peace. I was never one to to around broadcasting my opinion.

Namenic · 07/02/2021 07:25

Grannycurls - what if you were asymptomatic? I guess that is the problem with covid - it might be spread by people who don’t know it. It’s a risk and people who are unable to have the jab will have a higher risk if too many people do this.

Perhaps for people who are unable to have the jab, they might be able to have a mechanism to ask if people they work with have had the jab?

Blobby10 · 07/02/2021 07:57

grannycurls I agree with you and behave in a similar way! especially as the vaccine will not stop the asymptomatic transmission of this virus!

TheKeatingFive · 07/02/2021 08:05

especially as the vaccine will not stop the asymptomatic transmission of this virus!

No. Not the case. Evidence is already emerging that it will.

So granny, you asymptomatically spread it and make others ill, perhaps seriously, even die, when you could have prevented that by having the vaccine.

CaptainSirTomMooreismyhero · 07/02/2021 08:18

bumbleymummy · 07/02/2021 08:22

@TheKeatingFive

The person who contracted it could have been vaccinated. If not, then they are the ones deciding to put themselves at risk. There is no guarantee that they won’t come in contact with someone with the virus- someone else who can’t be vaccinated eg a child or someone who isn’t immune despite being vaccinated. We need to stop blaming people for just getting on with their lives. Every year we could pass a cold or flu on to someone who becomes very ill with it but we don’t guilt trip everyone about it.

AnoDeLosMuertos · 07/02/2021 08:27

TheKeatingFive · 07/02/2021 08:50

The person who contracted it could have been vaccinated. If not, then they are the ones deciding to put themselves at risk

No again.

There are people medically unable to have vaccines. Those who can have them and don’t, make life more dangerous for these people.

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