How long do you think the public majority (IRL) will put up with this for?

[Quit4me]

How long do you think public opinion and action will continue to support not seeing friends and family?
I’m asking based on your real life experiences (not mumsnet views)
I’m not after ‘I’m giving up my life for as long as it takes’ views here, or ‘I’m happy watching tv and hugging my yoga mat for years.
I’m asking for realistic views of 2021 and public opinion as the year goes on.

I saw my mother a grand total of one time last year - we had lunch in her garden. We live over 100 miles apart, so it’s not as though I’d see her more than about three times in any normal year, but each visit would involve staying overnight and last a few days. That one was less than 3 hours.

ISTR that when meeting indoors were allowed, you were still advised not to hug etc. Well, I won’t see her until it’s allowed. But once it is, and given that by then we will both have been vaccinated, I expect to ignore the bit about staying 2m apart. If she agrees, that is.

@Fuckinlonely

The lockdown lovers will comply until things start effecting them financially. Hopefully they are in the minority and the resistance is rising.

And the sneery "lockdown lover" haters will carry on ignoring rules until deaths and long term health issues start affecting them.

I think the OP is getting an answer now.

I think people have taken this lockdown a lot more seriously than the one in December but I also think people are cracking.

I don’t think it’s a case of not following any rules/ following every rule to the letter, I think it’s a case of bending the rules a little bit more each time as lockdown fatigue gets worse and worse.

This weekend, I’ve definitely seen a lot more cars parked outside our neighbours’ house, people bending the rules on social media etc and I’ve let DS go to the skatepark today.

On a positive note, deaths from flu have plummeted

If we lock down for a long time, perhaps we can eradicate death altogether 😊

I think that the vast majority don’t stick 100% to the rules - this has been going on for a long time by now and an awful lot of people have either had covid or have been vaccinated (must be at least 1/3-1/2 the population).

Continuing to follow the rules to the letter when you know you haven’t got covid or else know that you’ve been not seeing your family for 10 months and at no point have you had covid is going to be more than a little fatiguing!

@TheKeatingFive
My mum died suddenly in June, dh would like to see his dad, but won't until they are fully vaccinated. My sister lives abroad, yes I'd love to see her, I'd like to have seen her when our mum died, but it can't happen so will have to wait. Yes a myriad of other things can happen (that is one of the reasons why ds has been shielding, so he doesn't end up in hospital, as he often does over the Winter).
Yes, lockdown is not a pause on life, and it is time We won't get back, which is why we have made the very best of it that we can.

dh would like to see his dad, but won't until they are fully vaccinated

In fairness, that’s not obeying rules as long as it takes, which is really my point.

I’m seeing my parents as soon as they’re vaxxed. I have lost enough precious time with them.

Its his dad's decision, he lives a 2 hour drive away and we also have to think about the fact ds is shielding.

I was vaccinated the first week in January. DH December 28th. My best mates are also vaccinated.

Nothing about this scenario is likely to change. There’s not much chance of us swallowing this and not seeing each other indefinitely.

I have a place on the coast, I’m
Prepared to go there with my vaccinated friends after easter, have a shopping delivery and drink ourselves silly.

They are also happy to do this.

Compliance has been really high throughout the pandemic, I dont think that will change, and with the tougher enforcement we are now seeing, people won't be able to not comply as easily

I have lost enough precious time with them.

Believe me, we do not need reminding of this.

Time for me to bow out I think.

I hope you can see your parents soon

Its his dad's decision

Well I didn’t think you were forcing yourself on him.

But do you take my point? That this isn’t obeying the rules ‘as long as it takes’?

It’s bending them in a wholly sensible way to individual circumstances. Which is exactly what I’m doing, so absolutely no judgement, it’s just that you seem to be billing it as something different. If I’ve understood you correctly.

I think some people would be happy to live under lockdown conditions forever “for the greater good.”

I hope you can see your parents soon

Thanks. You too. I think we’re on the same page, just different semantics.

Perhaps when the 4 million people on furlough lose their jobs and homes we will see some push back?

Fwiw and I know some people won't believe me as such is the case! I live with a scientist who is first in their field for data modelling! They did also work with the modelling that has been used to push for lockdowns until it was thrown out many years ago! They are like many scientists devoid of empathy due to their way of thinking! But due to their knowledge of data they are completely against lockdowns even though they have no interest in socialisation! Due to the fact that data can be interpreted in different ways and at the moment the people interpretating it are only one side, as has been shown in this thread and many others and also across the scientific community and msm counter arguments or solutions are shut down very quickly, which is worrying. Also this person has spent many years studying behavioural science which is imo being overlooked by many scientists as like I have said they only look into their own field! A balance needs to be struck very soon! People are social animals and without hope they will ultimately take their own chances regardless and I cannot blame them for that! Social media and the msm are the biggest issue and also guilt! You can only guilt people Into compliance for so long before their guilt becomes one of their own self preservation and those of their own group and then it could explode!!

@Fuckinlonely - I'm not a lockdown lover - who is? But I understand the need for lockdown for the greater good of all of us. It's social responsibility.

I might see family if we have essentially not seen anyone or gone to shops etc for ten days. Depends how long this goes on for.

@TwirpingBird - if we don't exercise self control we could be back in this situation next winter.

@WalrusWife yes, my boss LOVES Lockdown, every teams meeting she goes on about it: how normally I’d be off doing sports and meeting friends and now I am forced to live like her, isn’t it funny

She’s introverted and lives in her house going nowhere with no hobbies and no friends. This is through choice. She’s happy this way. She’s a great advocate of long lockdown for the greater good, and positively gleeful about how miserable I am

So yes, lockdown lovers exist

She’s doing my head in frankly

@Lastbonestanding

I have a bad feeling that people will put up with anything.

Me too.

Once the vulnerable groups have been vaccinated, not for much longer. Quite surprised talking to people this past week. People who have stuck to it throughout but definitely won't be sticking to it past that point

I think people will stop following the rules as soon as both they themselves and the person they want to see have been vaccinated. So as in my case, I've had both shots, my parents who I haven't seen since last March have had the first-second due in April. When they have had their second jab I think it will be more tempting to go and see them. My Dad is 91... realistically he doesn't have much time left and he is so miserable not being able to see us all-it will be hard to say no if we've all been jabbed. Think lots of people will think like that tbh...

Can’t blame you, Murray. I’d do the same.