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Good to see someone in the MSM supporting teachers.

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Radio4Rocks · 31/01/2021 07:55

Teacher bashing has become a national sport.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/teacher-coronavirus-school-safety-b1795126.html

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Dustyboots · 31/01/2021 11:52

Thank you for all your advice and support.

year5teacher · 31/01/2021 11:57

I’m more amazed that other people are shocked by this. I thought schools were like this everywhere.
God, no. There’s so many great schools out there with great staff.
When I was on placement, I was shocked by how the school had resigned itself to being a place where kids were violent and pulled out of lessons by SLT every day. It was like, “how can we stop this once it’s escalated?” not “how do we stop this happening in the first place?”. The school had recently started doing the Paul Dix method, no idea whether they were doing it properly but I know lots of teachers are not a fan of his. It became a place where teachers were under pressure to keep violent children in their classrooms, had no actual sanctions to give them, and then had to call SLT. And that’s nothing compared to some schools.

The staff were actually excellent teachers, and the head was lovely, but the leadership was weak and it felt as though they didn’t have high expectations at all. Everyone was worn down by it all and saw no way of changing it. It’s not always that the staff are terrible, but when you’re dealing with children hurting you and some parents then siding with their children it’s very demoralising. I can see how some teachers get to that “why am I bothering?” point and that’s really bad for the children.

However, there are so many amazing schools. The school I work in leaves me feeling very supported by my SLT and I’m almost never firefighting - always actually able to teach without battling behaviour.

starrynight19 · 31/01/2021 11:57

@Dustyboots

It is an area of high deprivation. I’d rather not say more than that.

Ofsted and governors are options, I know but I need to put my energies into helping my son rather than battling a system- that as you say may make no difference to him anyway.

I’m more amazed that other people are shocked by this. I thought schools were like this everywhere.

That sounds so tough for you and you know the best course of action for your son. We are very lucky we have a good choice of schools near us and none of them are as you described. I did work in one like this that became an academy and it did turn itself round. But a lot of children suffered in the process of getting there. It’s a good job your son has you helping him.
noblegiraffe · 31/01/2021 12:00

Dusty I'm sure you're already aware but just in case not:

classroom.thenational.academy/schedule-by-year

WhenSheWasBad · 31/01/2021 12:11

I’m more amazed that other people are shocked by this. I thought schools were like this everywhere

It shouldn’t be like this.

I’ll be honest in one of my classes I used to teach (I’m secondary) I had a large number of really tricky pupils.

My teaching was worse for those pupils. It’s hard to teach to the best of your ability when you are being called a “fucking cunt” and have things thrown at you.

Dustyboots · 31/01/2021 13:35

Yes @noblegiraffe I’m using this a lot at the moment. It’s really helping him learn.

I wish we could stay at home and do oak academy right up until his GCSEs. It’s much better than his real
School.

Dustyboots · 31/01/2021 13:39

When I was on placement, I was shocked by how the school had resigned itself to being a place where kids were violent and pulled out of lessons by SLT every day

The kids aren’t really violent. They are completely disruptive though and the school never ever does anything to remove them.

It’s as if their policy is to protect the most disruptive. No amount of letters from me or anyone else makes any difference.

MrsHamlet · 31/01/2021 13:43

I used to work for a head who was too afraid to call out bad behaviour.

I was told by a child that he was going to bend me over my desk and fuck me up the arse, bitch.

My crime was asking him to sit down and get on with his work.

HT told me that the child didn't mean it and it wasn't directed at me.

Child is now a man serving time for violent assault on his girlfriend.

itsgettingweird · 31/01/2021 14:23

How has an article about teacher bashing becoming a national sport been turned around into teachers expecting special treatment and medals?

But honestly people ignore the one person dominating the thread. If you quote the stupid posts you make even the posts against it about it.

Ignore ignore ignore like you do any tantrumimg toddler!

MrsHerculePoirot · 31/01/2021 14:27

@Dustyboots the good news is having parents who care about education and their children is going to put your child in a strong position, even though I can see how you tough it is for you. I would definitely fill in the Ofsted online form with your concerns. If lots of parents do it, it will get picked up/acted on I would hope. I am definitely not someone who says ‘report to Ofsted’ lightly.

motherrunner · 31/01/2021 14:38

@Dustyboots I’m not shocked. I left one school when I was pushed down the stairs when pregnant with DS, “accidentally” so no suspensions.

All I can say is that I too grew up in a deprived area. I was a PP council estate kid. I went to a rough school. Most girls in my year were pregnant before leaving school. BUT my mum had a strong work ethic. She would look for any ‘help’ possible so for instance, I had a bus pass paid for by my college by going to the bursary. When I went to uni I would claim any help possible. This helped me get out of the poverty trap.

Please don’t think your child’s future is mapped out because of where you live. I grew up in one of the places in the top 10 of most deprived UK areas and I became a teacher - a bloody good one if I do say so myself.

Good luck to you.

Dustyboots · 31/01/2021 16:27

Thank you

I do worry that DS’s future could be bleak. I’m trying my hardest to not let it be. It’s good to be reminded of some hope.

motherrunner · 31/01/2021 16:33

@Dustyboots Please do not under estimate the power of parental love and support. I wouldn’t be where I am now if it wasn’t for my mum. Feel free to PM me if you want a friendly ear or some educational help.

Wherediditgo · 31/01/2021 16:53

@MrsHamlet

I used to work for a head who was too afraid to call out bad behaviour.

I was told by a child that he was going to bend me over my desk and fuck me up the arse, bitch.

My crime was asking him to sit down and get on with his work.

HT told me that the child didn't mean it and it wasn't directed at me.

Child is now a man serving time for violent assault on his girlfriend.

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