“No onesies please as it makes the children in school jealous”

[Lemons1571]

A message from the head of our primary. Please could all parents at home please ensure their primary children are fully dressed in day clothes ready for their class 9am zoom. No onesies. Apparently the children actually allowed to go to school are annoyed seeing their classmates lounging at home in onesies / pj’s / loungewear.

Ummm, I’m sorry, I thought I heard you issuing instructions on what I must / must not do in my own house. What possible authority does a school have to do this? Kids forced out of face to face education. Being shown some lovely examples of the artwork done by the kids at school over zoom with the caveat “oh don’t worry I know you can’t do this at home”.

Read the room ffs. Just another request to put other people’s children before my own. As it happens my primary child gets dressed of his own accord, but if he wanted to wear a onesie then quite frankly anyone else’s opinion can fuck off.

Physically going to school = uniform worn as per school rules.
Physically barred from school = my house my rules.

No doubt I’m overreacting but it annoyed me!

Same asked at my kids school. Dressed for school and working. YABU sorry

DS's school said they must be "reasonably dressed". I put him in a t shirt and trousers. I wouldn't put him in PJs or a onesie.

My 5yo likes to go "full on princess" for her class calls. No one has said anything yet but you can't really see much of her ensemble from just the shoulders. I haven't told her that though. I did have to step in and say no when she requested face paints.

@FenEel

Also, some children might have cold homes if their parents can’t afford to keep the hearing on all day when they’d usually be out of the house and therefore might need to wear a onesie or dressing gown.

Do jumpers no longer exist?

A jumper is not always warm enough. There are threads on here all the where posters say they are wearing dressing gowns, Oodies, heated blankets, slippers, gloves etc etc when WFH and that’s adults so if children are now at home in these houses then surely they’ll be just as cold?

I find it hard to understand the bitter resentment coming from people whose children don't have access to the hubs. They are hubs. Far from normal school. Far from a normal environment. The kids are there as they can't be at home. I know where I'd rather my kids were in a pandemic regardless of whether it's tough or not. I bet loads of parents using the hubs wish they didn't have to.

I think it's reasonable to expect a child to be dressed in proper day clothes and not pyjamas or onesies or a tracksuit. Doesn't have to be a choice between uniform or 'anything you like'.

It is a reasonable request to say no PJs but the wording from the head is appalling
I agree. It would be much better if they kept it simple by saying that students should be appropriately dressed for learning and not in sleepwear, including onesies.

Stodging about in night clothes is dispiriting.

Washed, brushed and in day clothes is psychologically good for everyone.

I couldn't believe seeing people go to the shops in night clothes in some places...

Pyjamas under a coat, or even, heaven forfend, a dressing gown. Feet shoved into slippers.. Just must be so bad for morale.

Lockdown is shite. Really getting to people, so It would be too easy to let standards slide.

@dbml exactly. And this is exactly the point. Here we are debating bloody clothing. When the issue is education. My kids are getting a private education in their pyjamas. Thank god. I am a single working mum paying through the nose for that.

Our school states no sleepwear when doing zoom.

Reasonable request.

When I worked from home I always "dressed" as I would have for work - it puts you in the right mental framework.

@pinktophat

I find it hard to understand the bitter resentment coming from people whose children don't have access to the hubs. They are hubs. Far from normal school. Far from a normal environment. The kids are there as they can't be at home. I know where I'd rather my kids were in a pandemic regardless of whether it's tough or not. I bet loads of parents using the hubs wish they didn't have to.

They aren’t all hubs. At all. For many it’s a two tier system. Seeing your own child struggling at home while seeing the kids at school getting time with their teachers, a proper education instead of a sub par one at home is very difficult.

My dd goes to school two days per week (key worker). The rest of the time she’s at home doing online learning. She’d love to go to school every day (not enough spaces). The kids in school are not allowed to be seen on the zoom calls as it would make the home learners jealous. It’s a great school with fantastic teachers.

Dd wears pjs/onesie on zoom calls, and no one gives a hoot.

These are not normal times.......who cares what they wear?

It seems like most of the 'being able to go to school' jealousy is coming from the parents here, not so much the kids.

[quote Ramblingwords]@mummyinbeccles

"Have you got any idea what it’s like to have to send your child into school? It is risky and they are scared. You have to refrain from onesies. Poor you. Get a grip."

Do we really need to compete with the stress we are under? It's stressful having to send kids in...it's also stressful not being able to and having to do stressful jobs at home while caring for kids. This whole thing is affecting us all in different ways. Playing top trumps with it doesn't help.

Just to put this in perspective, perhaps we can all remember that there is children suffering abuse, neglect and hunger in the midst of all of this. At least one child has died (drowned) while their mum was trying to continue to work from home.

I think schools could do with remembering that this is a hideous unprecedented event, something that has not happened for over 100 years...and a good time to offer support without demands and trivial conditions attached to it.[/quote]
How on Earth is it a dig at anyone? You don’t know me or what I’m doing. Go away.

And this is precisely why I suspect I am not going around with a face like a smacked worse saying that life is shit and everything is shit but instead trying to see the positives and carving out a pretty fulfilling and happy life for me and, most importantly, my children, in a pandemic.

Because I don’t get caught up in frothy shite like this

A jumper is not always warm enough. There are threads on here all the where posters say they are wearing dressing gowns, Oodies, heated blankets, slippers, gloves etc etc when WFH and that’s adults so if children are now at home in these houses then surely they’ll be just as cold?
Kids in school manage. Our school has windows open, DS wears tshirt, jeans, coat. At 14 to 17 degrees at home he is often sitting in shorts and tshirt, so school must be cold.

@WorraLiberty I am too busy and frankly I don’t give a toss as long as my kids are being educated.

I think the request is not unreasonable; the reason given for it is.

I think children should preferably not wear pjs/ onesies for Zoom lessons, as it creates a 'bedtime' rather than working/learning atmosphere. It's not an issue I'd go to the stake for, but I think it's not unreasonable of the school to request it.

However, I don't think that other children's possible jealousy should be given as the reason. The children being taught at home could just as well be jealous of the children at school having the freedom to get out of the house and meet their friends. The experiences are never going to be exactly the same, whatever the children are wearing.

If they wanted to enforce it, semi reasonable, although using the other children getting jealous as the reason is pretty low. Grow some minerals and just say uniform and no jammies/onesies please.

Even though I'd probably go along with it, I don't think they should be telling kids at home what to wear.

It's inappropriate and disrespectful for children to be in pyjamas or onesies for online learning. They won't be in the right mindset at all. It's good for them to get dressed and ready to learn.

Som teachers are doing online lessons from home. What would you think if they were in pyjamas?

School kids are jealous of those at home? Home ones (or mums) are jealous of those in schools!

*Some

Most schools ask for certain clothing to be worn/not worn for safeguarding reasons. They should have a remote working policy that parents agree to and if they go against the guidelines, they may not be able to access the 'live' lessons.