Page 18 | “No onesies please as it makes the children in school jealous”

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 18:32

@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer

The ones who are in school are in their day in day out, working consistently, on the subjects they should be, with various teachers in and out and not a lot of help. Many are vulnerable. No walks, no "ooh pop through and have some lunch" no "awk we'll finish early and do a b and c".

what a lot of nonsense

It's actually insulting on the teachers. Not all school have "various teachers", in many schools it's the normal teacher and the usual TA.

Kids have access to all their outdoor activities, playtime, PE, games and so on

It's much better to be at school with your friends enjoying your normal education and activities than being stuck home. Seriously, what are you on about!

This might come as a shock to you but - there is more than one school in the country.

I work in a school.

It's on a rota system and the children are seeing up to six different teachers a day, and cannot go outside.

Every school is different. They are not at school with "their friends", they are in with other key worker children who they have to distance from, and they are doing neither their normal education and activities.

HTH.

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 18:32

@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer

We are doing our best and your post is unecessary.

you as an individual might be, but you can't talk for the whole education system.

Some schools are completely neglecting and abandoning children at home, and making it really clear to them that they are left behind and the focus is on their friends at home.

It's not right, and pretending it's not happening remove all weight in your arguments.

Nobody is doing this.

Makingnumber2 · 30/01/2021 18:33

I think it's ok to ask parents to ensure their children are in day clothes, rather than PJs/lounge wear. I don't think it's ok for the HT to give the reason for the request being it's making kids in the hub jealous... lots of kids at home would love to be in school having the social interaction their hub attending peers are getting, so the children in hub have that perk and the children at home have the perk of own clothes (within reasonable limits).

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 18:33

@Lemons1571

A message from the head of our primary. Please could all parents at home please ensure their primary children are fully dressed in day clothes ready for their class 9am zoom. No onesies. Apparently the children actually allowed to go to school are annoyed seeing their classmates lounging at home in onesies / pj’s / loungewear.

Ummm, I’m sorry, I thought I heard you issuing instructions on what I must / must not do in my own house. What possible authority does a school have to do this? Kids forced out of face to face education. Being shown some lovely examples of the artwork done by the kids at school over zoom with the caveat “oh don’t worry I know you can’t do this at home”.

Read the room ffs. Just another request to put other people’s children before my own. As it happens my primary child gets dressed of his own accord, but if he wanted to wear a onesie then quite frankly anyone else’s opinion can fuck off.

Physically going to school = uniform worn as per school rules.
Physically barred from school = my house my rules.

No doubt I’m overreacting but it annoyed me!

Did this sentence come out of the head's mouth "Apparently the children actually allowed to go to school are annoyed seeing their classmates lounging at home in onesies / pj’s / loungewear." or have you as parents assumed this?

I think it is far more likely that parents have either not had their children there on time, or aren't properly dressed themselves.

WorraLiberty · 30/01/2021 18:34

@ImAllOut

My daughter's in school and her school don't have to wear uniform when attending. I didn't realise schools were still enforcing uniform wearing.

Most are not

Iknowwhatudidlastsummer · 30/01/2021 18:34

RootyT00t
I literally wrote "not all schools..."

My point was that you can't pretend that everybody has a negative experience because of the way your own school is organised.

Not allowing children outside sounds the most bonkers of all!

HTH you.

TwelvePaws · 30/01/2021 18:35

Their onsie is comfier than a jumper? Most are made with the same material.
Going by this thread its surprising a lot of these children make it to school in normal times.

🤣 They’re as comfortable and also warmer. As I said earlier, some parents are struggling to heat their houses so putting a onesie on top of clothing works well.

Your jumpers are made of the same material as onesies? I don’t have any jumpers made from the same material as our onesies. We obviously don’t shop in the same places. 🤣

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 18:36

I don't disagree, but you asked me what "seriously I was on about", so I've explained. You judged my post based on how your school is organised.

I'm not pretending everybody has a negative experience either, I'm just suggesting to the OP that these children are not all in up and down across the country having a whale of a time.

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 18:36

Sorry
@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer missed your tag

ellenleaves · 30/01/2021 18:39

@mummyinbeccles not really cryptic but detail not relevant - if you're interested husband is a police officer and very busy working long shifts. I'm not a critical worker but my job hugely suffering (again) as all home learning and most childcare falls to me for two young children and I can't make it into work (around 40% can't be done from home). School will only take vulnerable children and those who have two keyworker parents (or single parent) working outside of the home. I know I'm not alone and loads of people are in a similar situation and I feel sympathy for everyone who is suffering because of the school situation, whether that's because they'd prefer to keep them home and can't or want to send them in and can't.

KarenMarlow3 · 30/01/2021 18:40

Many schools insist on children being dressed for safeguarding reasons.
So, are children in onesies somehow vulnerable? What do you think is going to happen to them? They're at home!

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 30/01/2021 18:42

This thrwadbis ridiculous. Honestly how can anyone get so worked up about their child being asked tk put on some normal clothes, not even uniform, just clothes instead of pj's and onsies.
I actually really don't like uniform, I think kids should be comfy at school and would be completely fine with uniforms being scrapped or changes so they are just comfy clothes, but this just is not a big deal!

Ilovemyhairbeingstroked · 30/01/2021 18:44

OP I completely agree with you . As far as I see the school are telling you what to do in your own home . End of - they can jog on !

TwelvePaws · 30/01/2021 18:44

I just can’t believe that all these schools have a policy of having cameras on. All the schools round here don’t allow cameras or mics on. Just chat through chat box on teams.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 30/01/2021 18:45

They’re as comfortable and also warmer. As I said earlier, some parents are struggling to heat their houses so putting a onesie on top of clothing works well.

Or just put a jumper on

Your jumpers are made of the same material as onesies? I don’t have any jumpers made from the same material as our onesies. We obviously don’t shop in the same places.

Yup most of my kids onsies are made of Jersey material. They sell onsies like that in most shops, along with onsies of other materials. Unless you are shopping somewhere I've never hear of.

RosesAndLemonade · 30/01/2021 18:47

@TwelvePaws

I just can’t believe that all these schools have a policy of having cameras on. All the schools round here don’t allow cameras or mics on. Just chat through chat box on teams.

My DDs school didn't during the first lockdown and now they do. I think some of the older year groups complained and said that they weren't getting enough teaching time and the school bowed to the pressure.

A few times we've had issues finding the correct call on teams and have accidentally enxdd up with a few of us in one without the teacher. They're (rightly) very up on that and admin staff join in to close the group . So they're very strong on safeguarding I feel.

mummyinbeccles · 30/01/2021 18:47

[quote ellenleaves]@mummyinbeccles not really cryptic but detail not relevant - if you're interested husband is a police officer and very busy working long shifts. I'm not a critical worker but my job hugely suffering (again) as all home learning and most childcare falls to me for two young children and I can't make it into work (around 40% can't be done from home). School will only take vulnerable children and those who have two keyworker parents (or single parent) working outside of the home. I know I'm not alone and loads of people are in a similar situation and I feel sympathy for everyone who is suffering because of the school situation, whether that's because they'd prefer to keep them home and can't or want to send them in and can't.
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I didn’t ask you to justify your situation. That’s not my place and I can see that it’s very difficult for you. I only resent implications that children in school are somehow ‘lucky’ from previous posters. I have a friend who’s 6 year old healthy child is hospitalised with COvid and I’m worried that the risk is high. I’m not digging at anyone but I resent the mean, selfish sentiments on here.

RootyT00t · 30/01/2021 18:48

So do I @mummyinbeccles

Xerochrysum · 30/01/2021 18:52

Iminaglasscaseofemotion, when I'm sitting at the dining table with my laptop, my legs are really cold so I carry hot water bottles and use blankets. I don't have onesie but it may actually solve the problem. But wearing jumpers won't. So I can totally see why the children wants to wear onesies over the clothes to stay warm.

Happymum12345 · 30/01/2021 18:53

Children in school want to be at home and children at home want to be at school. The grass isn't always greener. Everyone just wants normality back.

TwelvePaws · 30/01/2021 18:53

Or just put a jumper on

Do your jumpers have legs in them ? No? Therefore a onesie is warmer. My friends kids wear onesies over their clothes as they’re warmer because it covers their legs.

Yup most of my kids onsies are made of Jersey material. They sell onsies like that in most shops, along with onsies of other materials. Unless you are shopping somewhere I've never hear of.

Our onesies are thick and feel fleecy/furry/fluffy. From John Lewis or Next. I don’t have jumpers like that, neither do my kids.

Anyway, like I say, all cameras are turned off for my kids schools and college.

This thread is crazy! 🤪

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 30/01/2021 18:54

[quote RosesAndLemonade]@WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants 'ang about! You seen what she's been saying to me??????[/quote]
Don't you cry either!!

It wasn't you I was referring to!

I wouldn't want either of your jobs - I'm not keen on calls to Asia or having nappies thrown at me.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 30/01/2021 18:54

Asking children to get dressed for live lessons & wear day clothes

Reasonable

Showing off the work, Art, fun and games the group in school is doing - VERY Unreasonable.

Saying that the children in school are jealous of the children at home

VERY Unreasonable

Dentistlakes · 30/01/2021 18:55

YANBU OP.

I do make sure my children are dressed as they don’t work well if they’re not, but I don’t do that because the school tells me to or for the benefit of those in class with the teacher. If my children worked well in their onesies and it helped them to dress like that, then that’s what I would do. If I had to play the game then I would have them turn the camera off.

I have a great deal of sympathy with parents working from home whilst home schooling, especially those who are having to deliver at the same level as before or are even busier. It’s no joke having to prep for and present client calls with children at home. I would crack on in the way that suits you OP and quite frankly it wouldn’t bother me in the slightest how the children in school feel about it. At least they are able to socialise with children their own age and not be trapped at home for hours on end with no interaction with their peers.

Goodbye2020Hello2021 · 30/01/2021 18:56

@TwelvePaws

I just can’t believe that all these schools have a policy of having cameras on. All the schools round here don’t allow cameras or mics on. Just chat through chat box on teams.

Ours has a no camera policy. For staff and students.