“No onesies please as it makes the children in school jealous”

[Lemons1571]

A message from the head of our primary. Please could all parents at home please ensure their primary children are fully dressed in day clothes ready for their class 9am zoom. No onesies. Apparently the children actually allowed to go to school are annoyed seeing their classmates lounging at home in onesies / pj’s / loungewear.

Ummm, I’m sorry, I thought I heard you issuing instructions on what I must / must not do in my own house. What possible authority does a school have to do this? Kids forced out of face to face education. Being shown some lovely examples of the artwork done by the kids at school over zoom with the caveat “oh don’t worry I know you can’t do this at home”.

Read the room ffs. Just another request to put other people’s children before my own. As it happens my primary child gets dressed of his own accord, but if he wanted to wear a onesie then quite frankly anyone else’s opinion can fuck off.

Physically going to school = uniform worn as per school rules.
Physically barred from school = my house my rules.

No doubt I’m overreacting but it annoyed me!

@NichyNoo

Our teachers are teaching the kids who are lucky enough to be in school whilst the homeschool kids are on a computer screen trying to watch and listen to what the teacher says in the classroom. Glitchy school wifi means it’s nearly impossible. The lucky kids in school are getting feedback from teachers on their work. Nothing we’ve submitted online for my year 6 and year 3 over the past three weeks has had any feedback - don’t know why I’m bothering to submit it tbh and might stop.

Art day this week with homeschool kids having to make do with whatever’s in the house whilst school kids do the papier mâché, painting etc.

I think I’d respond to a message about onesies pointing out that the kids at home are jealous to the point of tears and tantrums that their friends are in school and receiving an education

Lucky? Please think about why these children are in school.

Ooooooooo get you!!! I'm a woman with a job who gets spat on, pooed on, kicked , hit, cuddled with hands that have just been down the toilet, dirty nappies thrown at me... AND I wear really nice full length black gothic dresses to work! You gotta problem with that?

the bitterness is strong on that one.

@EmmanuelleMakro

If he used the word ‘jealous’, instead of the correct word ‘envious’, I’d be looking for a school with a headteacher who has a basic level of literacy -which yours hasn’t. Sounds like the sort of person who uses ‘sat’ instead of ‘sitting’.

Again, the Headteacher said....

Please could all parents at home please ensure their primary children are fully dressed in day clothes ready for their class 9am zoom. No onesies.

All the rest was the OP

DD6 has to be up and dressed for her teams class at 10am or they can't take part. Fine by me even though DD only wakes up at 9.15

Also, though my older child does tend to wear his oodie and pyjama bottoms as off-camera, he does have a shower and hair wash every night so in his case it's not that he doesn't wash as others have suggested!

@WorraLiberty

This thread has taken a really weird turn 👀

Sorry I couldn't help myself the post I replied to was way too funny!

Lucky? Please think about why these children are in school.

originally children were at school to allow critical worker to work.

Nowadays, they are at school because parents managed to find a vague link and become "key workers" so they don't have to homeschool and can work from home (or not work at all sometimes) in peace.

@FenEel

Also, some children might have cold homes if their parents can’t afford to keep the hearing on all day when they’d usually be out of the house and therefore might need to wear a onesie or dressing gown.

Do jumpers no longer exist?

Don’t be so naive and arrogant. I know a family who are really struggling and the kids have their dressing gowns over their clothes.

A really weird turn

@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer

Ooooooooo get you!!! I'm a woman with a job who gets spat on, pooed on, kicked , hit, cuddled with hands that have just been down the toilet, dirty nappies thrown at me... AND I wear really nice full length black gothic dresses to work! You gotta problem with that?

the bitterness is strong on that one.

Haha not at all I absolutely love my job (despite all the above mentioned) I couldn't DREAM of doing anything else. No bitterness no complaints. And I also love dressing like a witch!

I just couldn't help myself because rhe PP I replied to was so damn random!

@Lemons1571

We’re not being asked to do this so our primary children are ready to learn. We’re being asked to do this specifically for the benefit of the kids that are getting a classroom education.

This is why it is BS and YANBU. Go back and tell them that it is upsetting your kids seeing the kids who are privileged enough to have a place in school so could then teacher turn their camera off. I would be really pissed off if I was sent an email like this.

* BlessexHotelhelp errrr yes I would talk like that in real life. I am a women with a job that talks with Asia in the morning and the USA in the evening. You got an issue with that ? Ooooooooo get you!!! I'm a woman with a job who gets spat on, pooed on, kicked , hit, cuddled with hands that have just been down the toilet, dirty nappies thrown at me... AND I wear really nice full length black gothic dresses to work! You gotta problem with that?*

What?

Also I'm in hospital and I'm really bloody bored.

But can someone please please please explain why onesies are a safeguarding issue.

Please???

My dd got bollocked over zoom for not having her hair tied back!! Like you can catch nits or get your hair in a Bunsen burner over zoom!!

I think it’s OK for school to request that the children are wearing appropriate clothes to be ready to learn

Which is any clothes that would not be improper to be seen in in public. Specific Clothes do not make you learn better. OP is NBU whatsoever. They should turn the camera off for zoom instead and be audio only if that's how they want to play it or zoom in on head only.

YANBU I don’t have school age children now but if I did then as long as what they were wearing was clean and gave sufficient coverage that would do.

The children in school are getting interaction with their peer group and activities which are not available to those at home. A school near me chose this time to introduce a new therapy dog last week and invited TV cameras in to see the children in school meeting and playing with the puppy, whilst the others got to wave from a Zoom screen. I know where my children would rather have been, and I think in the context of all that those going to school are getting then being allowed to wear PJ’s or a Onesie is not really unfair.

@RosesAndLemonade

I think a onesie would count as pyjamas (debatable I know) and pyjamas are definitely a no-no for both adults and children in our risk assessment. I know it sounds silly because Primary kids are obviously not in negligees but it draws the line somewhere and I think our LEA issued the same advice for both primary and secondary.

My friend’s children have been told they need to wear school uniform. Apparently it gets them ‘in the mood to learn’.

Stick a t-shirt on him and let him keep his pyjama bottoms on or just put him in neutral pyjamas. Who can really tell?

What do you mean, 'read the room', OP? What an odd statement. Why wouldn't you expect children to be dressed for school - whether they're in physical attendance at school or not?

I'm working from home, on teams calls all the time and they'd take a dim view of staff in nightwear/casual-wear. What's the difference with children? Why can't they be dressed?

[quote Overoptimistix]@RosesAndLemonade

I think a onesie would count as pyjamas (debatable I know) and pyjamas are definitely a no-no for both adults and children in our risk assessment. I know it sounds silly because Primary kids are obviously not in negligees but it draws the line somewhere and I think our LEA issued the same advice for both primary and secondary.[/quote]
Really? How come? Well I stand corrected that if isn't an issue then, many apologies! I don't think they should be worn for home learning but j genuinely wouldn't have thought it was safeguarding. Well you live and learn!

It’s all in the delivery in my opinion. A nicely worded explanation of how the children in school are feeling might have gone down better than words like ‘ensure’ and ‘no onesies’ etc

I am leaving this thread as there are women who clearly don’t like other women’s jobs and want to leave them to the men. I don’t.

@AlwaysLatte

* BlessexHotelhelp errrr yes I would talk like that in real life. I am a women with a job that talks with Asia in the morning and the USA in the evening. You got an issue with that ? Ooooooooo get you!!! I'm a woman with a job who gets spat on, pooed on, kicked , hit, cuddled with hands that have just been down the toilet, dirty nappies thrown at me... AND I wear really nice full length black gothic dresses to work! You gotta problem with that?*

What?

Seriously I'm lost but the original comment amused me so much I just had to reply as such. I mean that actually is my job but I just cannot work out the relevance to anything of talking to Asia and whatnot. The whole of asia? Or just some of it?

Lucky? Please think about why these children are in school.

In our school we have kids allowed in school if one parent is a keyworker, even if able to work from home (accountant, NHS admin etc) and the other parent is a SAHM.

I have friends in this position loving the fact that their kid is getting lessons from the teacher in tiny class sizes and moving ahead of all the homeschooled kids.

So yes, they are very lucky to be in school.

@Blessex

I am leaving this thread as there are women who clearly don’t like other women’s jobs and want to leave them to the men. I don’t.

I like any other women's jobs. I just don't like braggy women