WHO urges Britain to pause covid jabs after treating the vulnerable

[Jay2020]

Link

www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/30/who-urges-britain-to-pause-covid-jabs-after-treating-vulnerable

I am beyond broken if this means we can't get to any kind of normality.

Hey WHO, do you realise that we have the highest covid deaths in the world making us the most country is vulnerable on earth?

The whole country is vulnerable with a government like the present one hence the need to vaccinate us all ASAP!!

The WHO should check the direction of its moral compass and instead be urging countries and pharmaceutical companies to do everything they can to to allow the most effective vaccines to be produced globally and affordably everywhere they possibly can.

The UK isn't even 1% of the world population and would hardly make a dent in the global issue.

I all comes down to money and greed.

We can't afford (mentally and financially) to stay in lockdown or even semi-lockdown for much longer. We really have to get rid of most of the restrictions by Summer, and be back to as near normal as possible by, say, September.

If the under 50's are happy to let other countries have vaccines, then they need to accept they'll have to return to pretty much the normal lives, and risk themselves getting covid.

I agree completely. And as it happens I'm under 50 and would be perfectly happy to resume normal life without having a vaccine. I'm pretty sure I had Covid last spring and think I could survive even a worse variant. I'd happily take the risk.

However I know lots of other under 50s who are very fearful of getting it and wouldn't be happy to resume normal life. And there's no way I'm going to accept a semi-lockdown or mask wearing etc indefinitely for their sake. So full vaccines it is then.

Isn't the 'help ourselves first then we can help others' more of a colonial view than seeing ourselves as part of a global community of equals?

I would be so pissed if the UK slows down it's vaccination. We have one of the worse death rates in the world ( yes, shit decisions etc etc) BUT our vaccination program is working very well at the moment. God forbid that the UK and it's residents should actually benefits from this. No both the WHO and EU want us to slow down and have more deaths??

'a global community of equals'... Its not a Disney movie 😂

And as it happens I'm under 50 and would be perfectly happy to resume normal life without having a vaccine

Same although I recognise it's easy for me to say that because I wfh as does DH in one of the lower risk boroughs. Therefore I wouldn't call someone who was young & healthy but worked as a bus driver for example who did want a vaccine selfish.

iI's actually a very colonial attitude to think the UK can solve the problems of the world

Good job the WHO didn't say that!

It was a general exhortation to all the rich countries who have secured supplies not to buy up so much that poorer nations cannot vaccinate.

It it The Guardian that has made it more click-baity by personalising it to UK (which of course counts in that category, but was not singled out)

We have already funded COVAX at a level only matched by Australia (if every country funded at the same proportion of economy size, the programme would be fully funded) and we have backed the development of the explicit not-for-profit AZ jab.

We have ordered way more vaccine than we need (because we ordered early and speculatively - it could have been a spectacular waste of money) and it is right that we relinquish our excess

@stripeyIIIIItscmsfkmf

Even if you draw the line at a low level, it's better than nothing. Boris was talking about vaccinating ALL adults in the UK by August or something. I'm 32 and perfectly healthy – I'd happily not get vaccinated if it meant a more vulnerable person in another country could be.

Let me finish that sentence for you : "I'd happily not get vaccinated if my civil rights were restored pronto"...

'a global community of equals'... Its not a Disney movie 😂

Even Disney isn't that saccharine!

I think we should vaccinate everyone in the UK that wants it - then we can move on to helping others.

@meditrina I have no doubt we will help others when we have helped those here who need or want the vaccine.
The colonial attitude comes through from some posters here, I wasn't referring to the WHO but it's fantastic that the majority of posters haven't forgotten their previous errors.

So we aren't equal then? We are better because we are from a richer nation. Gotcha

One thing we have done that is helpful to less wealthy countries is develop a vaccine that is more accessible due to low cost and easy to store.

And if too expensive contributed well to Covax

In the scheme of things U.K. has maintained a good vision over vaccine development

So on an plane about to crash ...gas masks come down ...are we not told to sort ourselves out so we can help others around us if needed?

I resent being told that because of where I live that we must slow down to make sure others catch up with vaccinations.

@Kettledodger
Well done. That poor analogy hasn't been used 300 times on this thread already.

So we aren't equal then? We are better because we are from a richer nation

Acknowledging there is global inequality has nothing to do with richer nations being better.

@Perfect28 however many times it takes 😂

[quote Perfect28]@Kettledodger
Well done. That poor analogy hasn't been used 300 times on this thread already.[/quote]
Maybe it's because so many feel this way ....are you saying that my view is invalid?

other countries getting up to speed with production of the AZ vaccine (if that's the one they want) is good, but we would be stupid to pause our own vaccination process until everyone here and the whole island of Ireland that wishes to have the vaccine has had it.

The variants need research/reaction and working on - the richer countries can work on that whilst rolling out the vaccine worldwide.

That's the only sensible way of doing it and a ridiculous suggestion. The EU can get their finger out as they are neither "poorer" etc they need to throw more money at the problem.

Sounds like the school sports day where everyone has to run as "fast" as the slowest kid - crazy and helps no-one.

@Perfect28

Isn't the 'help ourselves first then we can help others' more of a colonial view than seeing ourselves as part of a global community of equals?

I've asked the same question on this and on the several other similar threads but never received an answer.

Just how far do you want to take this 'equal' thing?

Even the poorest people in Britain live pretty desirable lives by the standards of much of the world. Should people be asked to give up their place in a homeless shelter because people in the slums of India live on the streets? Or to give a less extreme example, and to repeat an unanswered question from above, would you be prepared to give every single penny you earn, other than the amount used to purchase absolute essentials like basic food and shelter, to all these unnamed 'poor countries'?

If not, and if you beleive we are all 'equals', why not? Does your generosity on other people's behalf only extend to vaccines?

@IcedPurple I'd like to know too.

Let me finish that sentence for you : "I'd happily not get vaccinated if my civil rights were restored pronto"

I don't get it

It was already a finished sentence...?

I agree it doesn't need to be either/or. Fund and support simultaneous production of vaccines for developing countries through Covax/ Gavi, while vaccinating every willing adult (and children when approved). We'll finish faster, but we have really already suffered enough cases and death, and we need the economy back up to fund vaccines for others.