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Teachers, would you work?

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Liveandletlive3 · 30/01/2021 15:11

Just read an article which was stating that schools may run half days over the summer holidays due to missing so much from school closures.
Teachers, would you back this if you had the option to opt in or out to work over the summer holidays?

OP posts:
SE13Mummy · 31/01/2021 00:07

No, I wouldn't back it. Those of us who work in schools need a break, as do the children. Putting on holiday school will almost certainly not benefit those children who need it most. What I would back 100% is a review and rebuild of the curriculum so those currently in Y10 and below aren't expected to be at the same stage as was expected pre-pandemic. Those in Y11+ need the post-16 curriculum looked at too so the skills they've missed out on developing e.g. lab skills for sciences, are built into the early stages of courses instead of assuming pre-existing knowledge.

nottomgates · 31/01/2021 00:10

Sparkles715

No I won’t be working in school in the summer holiday. No way. Plenty of parents have shown no regard for my health and well-being as a vulnerable teacher by sending symptomatic children to school, having play dates during the November pretend lockdown and so on. I won’t be providing free childcare for them during my annual leave instead of spending it with my own family. If I could pick and choose which families I helped and I got paid for it then I would consider it. Maybe. But my days of going above and beyond are finished.

This.
No for me too

MrsHamlet · 31/01/2021 00:17

@KatherineOfGaunt

That post got deleted, I think, before I saw it, herc, but from what I gathered from comments afterwards, I definitely need to add that to the list.
Yes. She called me a mercenary idiot and a cold blooded witch.

I get more accurate insults from year 9.

echt · 31/01/2021 02:37

[quote HercwasanEnemyofEducation]@CountessFrog You seem to be deliberately vile on a number of threads towards teachers, why is this?[/quote]
She does this all the time.

It's her shtick. Meh.

echt · 31/01/2021 02:39

@CountessFrog

Call me Angela.

You were on threads last year saying you’d had enough of the whole thing because of covid and you were handing your notice in

  1. That's not her name.
  1. She never said this.
motherrunner · 31/01/2021 05:57

No. If my flights aren’t cancelled I will be on holiday for 3 weeks. I will enjoy my (unpaid) break and my children will too.

motherrunner · 31/01/2021 06:03

@LucyLockdown

A year of vilifying teachers (and continuing on this thread) and then they want something from them?!

I'm not a teacher, but I hope all the teachers tell anyone who wants a single extra minute of their time to go fuck themselves. They probably won't, as the teachers I know are beyond tolerant and patient, and genuinely care about the kids.

Love this. It’s so true when I think about it. I’ve taught for 20 years and always has the ‘in at 9, leave at 3.30, 14 weeks holiday’ comments but I have never felt that my profession was so undervalued (or even hated in some poster’s eyes) until the last 12 months. Then in the same breathe the same people want us to do more???
Remmy123 · 31/01/2021 07:45

@Honeybobbin I'm not saying you are all crap!! Just curious to know where the extra work is coming from?

I dont read all the threads on here but ill say one thing - the posts I do read here are of teachers moaning!

Also, I thought KW kids were following the same work that the homeschool children are so it's not a full day of learning.

@noblegiraffe I don't read every thread. I'm too busy working full time and home educating my own kids - you dont see me on here moaning like the teachers about my profession and how exhausted I am .. etc etc

GinAndTonicOnIt · 31/01/2021 07:51

It depends if I could get childcare. We rely on grandparent childcare and their grandparents have said they will not resume care until they are both vaccinated.

As teachers are not paid for the summer holidays it also depends if there's payment. I have been working solidly throughout lockdown providing live online lessons. This is more stressful than people realise, everything must be adapted so planning takes longer.

Remmy123 · 31/01/2021 07:52

@Abraxan they get x2 live and one pre recorded so 3 hours a day and that is it!! I dont think it's sufficient.

So I am doing the rest whilst working my own full time demanding job where I mysejf am on teams calls all day - working evenings etc I need my kids to have more live lessons, because no, I do not think it's good enough!!

Yes I have complained to the school. That's all they will offer.

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 31/01/2021 07:58

they get x2 live and one pre recorded so 3 hours a day and that is it!! I dont think it's sufficient.

Whereas there are many threads complaining that 3 hours a day is far too much and people are struggling to keep up. You can't please everyone. Your school will be doing what is best for the majority of the school population. How do you think it is possible to deliver a full timetable of online learning and have children in school too?

At secondary I'm not expected to do live lessons when supervising KW groups.

motherrunner · 31/01/2021 08:03

[quote Remmy123]@Abraxan they get x2 live and one pre recorded so 3 hours a day and that is it!! I dont think it's sufficient.

So I am doing the rest whilst working my own full time demanding job where I mysejf am on teams calls all day - working evenings etc I need my kids to have more live lessons, because no, I do not think it's good enough!!

Yes I have complained to the school. That's all they will offer.[/quote]
What age are your children? I’m delivering live lessons to timetable but I teach secondary. We have had parents ask if their children can be excused from some sessions as they don’t want them sitting in front of a screen for 5 hours.

My own children are primary aged. They have no live lessons or recorded lessons. They have a literacy, numeracy and topic task a day. They aren’t being taught be teachers, they are supervised by TAs but I’m not complaining as we’re in the middle of a pandemic and health and safety is more important at the moment.

Oilyvoir · 31/01/2021 08:04

Remmy123 - perhaps your children need to learn a bit of self motivation. You are not preparing them very well if they can't be a bit responsible for their own learning. I'm quite sure your school will be signposting your kids (probably via google classroom) to other learning opportunities. I can assure you that 3 hours of live teaching a day = 8 - 10 hours of work for their teacher.

SoFranCisco · 31/01/2021 08:04

TA and it’s a no from me - I love my job but am hoping for a summer of fun and adventures with my own family, my own kids are where they should be educationally but they certainly need some additional enjoyment from life this summer as has all been a bit bleak for a long time now!

Remmy123 · 31/01/2021 08:07

all I have read lately on MN are teachers moaning,

One poster on this thread called it 'free childcare' for us parents. Like we are are sitting at home doing f-all wanting to ship our kids off to school!!

It's pathetic.

No matter what job you are in currently we are all working much more than usual.

CuckooCuckooClock · 31/01/2021 08:07

Remmy plenty of lessons on oak national academy and bbc. Why can’t your dc do some of those if they need more than their school is providing?

Oilyvoir · 31/01/2021 08:09

Just to qualify the above post - preparing and delivering live lessons is very time consuming but of course there is way more that has to be done that parents are not privvy to - chasing non attenders, marking work. Oh my word that takes several hours of my day alone. Then there are several staff meetings and other remote meetings a week. Most days I start work at 6am and finish late in the evening...and I only deliver one live lesson a day and have 2 colleagues I'm sharing the planning with.

Remmy123 · 31/01/2021 08:11

@Oilyvoir yes I am preparing them - we watch the lesson / oak academy video several times - still doesn't understand it, then I have to learn it then teach it. Still needs help.

He is behind and finds it hard to motivate himself/concentrate whilst his parents are working in other rooms full time.

I am preparing as much as I can but I am on calls mysejf all day.

VashtaNerada · 31/01/2021 08:11

I’d consider doing a few hours for a bit of extra money, definitely not the whole summer though! And I’d need places for my DC in order to do it.

CuckooCuckooClock · 31/01/2021 08:13

Remmy how the pandemic and lockdown has affected people’s work is very much dependent on what job they do. Surely you can see that? What do you do for a living?

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 31/01/2021 08:15

One poster on this thread called it 'free childcare' for us parents.

Some parents will view a summer school as this.

HercwasanEnemyofEducation · 31/01/2021 08:17

I see Remmy isn't really engaging with posters providing constructive suggestions or accepting that remote learning is extra work for teachers.

Remmy123 · 31/01/2021 08:25

@CuckooCuckooClock aside fron the x2 live lessons (one of which is a story) he has worksheets and writing pieces to compete that need me to help as I say, he is struggling. Oak academy / bbc can't help him complete the work set by the school

BergamotMouse · 31/01/2021 08:27

Absolutely not! I'm working harder now than ever with fully live streamed lessons all day!

CuckooCuckooClock · 31/01/2021 08:28

Ok so the issue here is that your dc cannot access the work provided. That is a different issue. Have you contacted the teachers to ask for the work to be differentiated down for him?